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Old 04-25-2012, 07:05 PM   #811
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I didn't make anything up, nor did I provide any known false information. So I was not "messing" with anyone. But I don't know what NORRA will actually do as far as catching shortcutters. They did provide locations of where they want to catch shortcutters, which are identified in the GPS file (seems strange that they would tell everyone where not to cheat). What they ACTUALLY do at those locations is completely unknown to me. So don't blame me if some cheaters are not caught. I'm just the messanger.

Almost everything I suggested they do regarding the GPS file, shortcutting, and advantages for the roadbook users was rejected. The answer was always "next year". Which is partly why I came up with a concept for a new, second NORRA event, which they seem interested in. I'm currently calling it the 2013 (NORRA) Diabolical Rally. It's a 5 day rally (race), roadbooks only, possibly moto only for the first year (some parts too hard for most cars), convenient stationary bivouac location, on roads, trails, and open desert almost completely unexplored by anyone here. At the moment it's just under 1000 miles, though that will surely change as the concept and routes are refined. Two of the stages that I already laid out might actually be impossible to get through, so I have to go down there and do some prerunning and recon to see if the Diabolical name is understating the difficulty. If those two stages are very difficult but not impossible, maybe they could be "optional" for the lower-level riders. If they are actually impossible, we'll just give major bonus points for anyone who makes it through! For sure NAVIGATION will be the most important factor on almost all the stages.
I would love to see this happen. Who at NORRA can I talk to to make sure they know there is interest in this?
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:25 PM   #812
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Just found out that we may have a bit of a situation. Racer20 text'ed me about an hour ago saying the van died on the road in Arkansas. We are looking into options for getting the bikes (#5, #42, #74) and gear to Mexicali Will probably be renting a vehicle to go at least to Phoenix where the rest of us fly into.

Not sure what help wer are looking for but just a heads up that we will probably be needing some assistance if anybody is able and willing. At the very least we are probably going to need help carrying some extra gear during the race, assuming we make it to Mexicali somehow.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:07 PM   #813
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Scott, I'm excited about meeting you down there... when do you arrive?
Would love to meet you too, but I'm not going. Too busy. Got a bunch of roadbooks to prepare for upcoming Jimmy Lewis school, a military training activity, and a 2013 Dakar competitor. Have fun, and be safe!

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I would love to see this happen. Who at NORRA can I talk to to make sure they know there is interest in this?
Just tell them all you want them to put on a REAL rally!
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:13 PM   #814
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Just found out that we may have a bit of a situation. Racer20 text'ed me about an hour ago saying the van died on the road in Arkansas. We are looking into options for getting the bikes (#5, #42, #74) and gear to Mexicali Will probably be renting a vehicle to go at least to Phoenix where the rest of us fly into.

Not sure what help wer are looking for but just a heads up that we will probably be needing some assistance if anybody is able and willing. At the very least we are probably going to need help carrying some extra gear during the race, assuming we make it to Mexicali somehow.

I will know tomorrow if we have any extra room in the chase rig if that helps. We are headed through Phoenix Friday morning.

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Old 04-25-2012, 09:14 PM   #815
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:14 PM   #816
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Just found out that we may have a bit of a situation. Racer20 text'ed me about an hour ago saying the van died on the road in Arkansas. We are looking into options for getting the bikes (#5, #42, #74) and gear to Mexicali Will probably be renting a vehicle to go at least to Phoenix where the rest of us fly into.

Not sure what help wer are looking for but just a heads up that we will probably be needing some assistance if anybody is able and willing. At the very least we are probably going to need help carrying some extra gear during the race, assuming we make it to Mexicali somehow.
WOW.. bummer..

lets post up in regional to see if there are guys in Arkansas to help out.. I would possibly go on to Race-desert.com and also Norra may put a "racer alert" email out..


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Old 04-25-2012, 10:27 PM   #817
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Just checking in quick before we get a little sleep. Staying in Santa Fe.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:28 PM   #818
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Let's talk in Mexicali.
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Just found out that we may have a bit of a situation. Racer20 text'ed me about an hour ago saying the van died on the road in Arkansas. We are looking into options for getting the bikes (#5, #42, #74) and gear to Mexicali Will probably be renting a vehicle to go at least to Phoenix where the rest of us fly into.

Not sure what help wer are looking for but just a heads up that we will probably be needing some assistance if anybody is able and willing. At the very least we are probably going to need help carrying some extra gear during the race, assuming we make it to Mexicali somehow.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #819
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probably be renting a vehicle to go at least to Phoenix
I'd bet it shouldn't be too difficult to locate a rental place in Pheonix, Yuma, or El Centro where you can get an extended van or f250 type truck they'd allow you to take to Baja.
Not all places allow it. Some people wing it with an Avis (or whatever) but the Baja cops know what's up with rentals and if for any reason you interact with a cop and your rental isn't legal down there you'd be at their mercy.
There is a place in San Diego call California Baja Rental (CaBaja.com?) that primarily rents to Baja travelers (even 4wd's). Maybe they can help?
Be sure whatever you get is legal and fully insured for down there.
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:31 AM   #820
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I would love to see this happen. Who at NORRA can I talk to to make sure they know there is interest in this?
If you want it to happen, _help_ make it happen. :-) I'd start with doing a survey of all the other riders asking questions about what gps equipment and road chart equipment they have, and also their feelings about the different styles. Give them that research and work from there. :-D
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:33 AM   #821
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some hope...

Just heard that the Ford dealer thinks they can have the van fixed today. So there is still hope. We might be rolling in as tech is about over, going to try to give NORRA a heads up, hopefully they will let us tech late if it comes to that.
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Old 04-26-2012, 06:35 AM   #822
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I'm really bummed I'm not riding and thus have no bike porn to share. :(

Instead, you have to suffer through 'scoring porn'. How do rallies get scored? Cables. Lots and lots of cables. :)

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Old 04-26-2012, 08:17 AM   #823
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Just heard that the Ford dealer thinks they can have the van fixed today. So there is still hope. We might be rolling in as tech is about over, going to try to give NORRA a heads up, hopefully they will let us tech late if it comes to that.
I'm texting Andrew with some options too
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:30 AM   #824
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Absolutely! That is my plan as well.

However, keep in mind this really cool site is a volunteer non profit sort of thing. Would be great to thank them and help cover costs of the bandwitdh by throwing a few bucks their way: http://spotwalla.com/help/index.php#donate
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:38 AM   #825
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give NORRA a heads up
Keep me updated. Cell: 919.697.5282. Course it doesn't work while I'm in this plane, but I'll be meeting up the the NORRA crew in... *checks watch* ...two hours and forty six minutes.

I'm sure you won't be the only one with travel troubles.

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