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Old 05-04-2012, 04:42 PM   #241
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There, 420 lb. with a 15-17 lb. tank bag, 2-Bros. full exhaust with headers, chopped tail fender:

No way a 2nd gen, FI SV is sgoing to get close to 420 lb. without significant mods.



If I get motivated next week, I will weigh my SV650N just for a comparison:



Each of my SV were purchased under $2.5k, can't find better middleweight than these.
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:06 AM   #242
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I miss the 2nd gen yellow naked SV my ex-wife took with her when she bounced. One of the best bikes that ever sat in my garage.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:07 AM   #243
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I can't believe Suzuki dropped the SV 650 from it's line up. That seems to me like Coke dropping the old formula & going to "new coke" except we don't get a "new SV". The SV 650 was the bike I wanted next but, it looks like I'll be going with a 650 Versys simply because there's NOTHING that really turns me on at middle weight. I do like the Versys but, I don't think it would be imposible for Yamaha, Suzuki or Honda to build something that would make me forget all about the Versys. CURSE this failing economy!
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:10 AM   #244
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I can't believe Suzuki dropped the SV 650 from it's line up. That seems to me like Coke dropping the old formula & going to "new coke" except we don't get a "new SV". The SV 650 was the bike I wanted next but, it looks like I'll be going with a 650 Versys simply because there's NOTHING that really turns me on at middle weight. I do like the Versys but, I don't think it would be imposible for Yamaha, Suzuki or Honda to build something that would make me forget all about the Versys. CURSE this failing economy!
Why not buy a used SV?
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:15 AM   #245
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Where on earth did you come up with those crazy low dry weights? Is that minus all fluids, minus battery, minus something-else-heavy?
SV 650:
Wiki says 364-386 dry, for various years and models. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650)
Wiki ways 420/440 wet for various years and models.

Ninja 650:
Wiki says 440 wet, 390 dry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_650R)
Kawi says 460 wet (http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/pro...ns.aspx?id=570)

And, we have a post from a member on here confirming the SV numbers (420 wet-ish, with some fuel, coolant, oil, etc matches pretty well with 380 or so dry).

It is sad that the SV650 is gone. I am not nearly as bothered by the fact that we don't have more 250/400cc bikes.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:55 AM   #246
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I can't believe Suzuki dropped the SV 650 from it's line up. That seems to me like Coke dropping the old formula & going to "new coke" except we don't get a "new SV".
The Gladius is the New Coke. I've never seen a Gladius on the street.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:18 AM   #247
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Why not buy a used SV?
I'm thinking about it but, I prefer to buy a new bike that I know hasn't been abused. I've had good luck with used bikes in the past but, you just never know. I'm not the most mechanical guy & when looking at used bikes I don't know much more than to check for oil leaks, listen for knocks/ noise & look for blue smoke.

I do like the Versys, I just like the SV better. If I find a good deal on a low mileage unit I may go the used route. I have been casually looking but, I don't want to drive 1,500 miles to pick one up either.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:36 AM   #248
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The Gladius is the New Coke. I've never seen a Gladius on the street.
I haven't seen the Gladius on Suzukis web site for 2012. I'm assumeing it's one more bike no longer available in the U.S..

Ultimately, I'd like to see one of the Jap (any of them) brands build a modern 650 super moto for the street. I LOVE KTMs but, the 690 is no longer available here either & I'm not looking for a higher mainence race bike. A Japanese 650 SM makeing "around" 50 H.P., Japanese dependability & dealer network seems perfect for me. I know it isn't likely to happen in this economy but, I've always been a dreamer.

Speaking of dreams.... My dream bike would be for Aprilia to build the SXV 550 with Japanese dependability or for Yamaha to build a super moto based on the 700 raptor power plant with a 6 speed tranny.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:40 AM   #249
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I searched long and hard for a mid-discplacement (meaning NOT Goldwing weight) standard -- something with good ergos and a sport-inspired motor (meaning function over from). It was essentially down to 3 models, all currently out-of-production: Bandit 650 (2005+), SV650 standard (2003+), Honda Nighthawk 750 (1992-2003)

All three offer similar output and torque at the rear wheel. I chose the Nighthawk due to superior comfort and ergos, and it has a sweet, smooth-running, low maintenace motor. The SV650 had the edge in handling, is lightweight, and also has a smooth-revving motor.

model / dry weight (lbs) / hp @ rpm / torque (ft/lbs) @ rpm

Suzuki Bandit 650S / 473-483 lbs / 77.5 hp @ 10,500 / 43.7 @ 7800
Suzuki SV650N / 370 lbs / 73.4 hp @ 8800 / 47.2 @ 7000
Honda Nighthawk 750 / 463 lbs / 75 @ 8500 / 47 @ 7500


Late model Nighthawks can still be found with low mileage. This 2001 model had 5045 miles on it when I bought her. Its getting a backrest, sissy bar bag, and a touring windscreen.



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Old 05-08-2012, 10:57 PM   #250
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Several people on here have said things like this:



and this:



All I can say is Ha! Kawsaki's 500 was such a poor seller that they kept it in the lineup from 1987 to 2009,
And I found a brand-new 2009 500R on Cycle Trader.

Like I said, they don't sell well.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:04 AM   #251
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Wow! That 750 nighthawk is one of the cleanest I've seen! What a great looking Bike!

BTW, the Suzuki Gladius is not totally uncommon up here ... the few owners I've talked to seem to be very happy with their Bikes. I've not Ridden one, but a pal has a co-worker that owns a lowered Gladius ... would love to give that a whirl ... if it's anything close to the '88 650 Hawk GT I tried out last summer, then the Glad would be a hoot for sure!

A few other mid-displacement Standards I'd like to try are the ER-6n, the Moto Guzzi V7 Classic and Honda's new NC700S ...
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:19 AM   #252
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380 lb. for my naked SV w/about 1/3 tank of fuel:

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Old 05-18-2012, 09:21 PM   #253
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Why not buy a used SV?

A used SV650 is my 2nd choice behind a used ZG1000. I'd snap either one up if one became available.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:37 AM   #254
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Wow! That 750 nighthawk is one of the cleanest I've seen! What a great looking Bike!

BTW, the Suzuki Gladius is not totally uncommon up here ... the few owners I've talked to seem to be very happy with their Bikes. I've not Ridden one, but a pal has a co-worker that owns a lowered Gladius ... would love to give that a whirl ... if it's anything close to the '88 650 Hawk GT I tried out last summer, then the Glad would be a hoot for sure!

A few other mid-displacement Standards I'd like to try are the ER-6n, the Moto Guzzi V7 Classic and Honda's new NC700S ...
The 2012 model ER6n got great reviews on release.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #255
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Taken together, the Ninja250 and Honda CBR250R will take over the biggest selling market segment in the US of all motorcycles, limited only by availability. Which Honda is working on despite the set back of a shut down last year due to flooding in Thailand. They sold 60,000 CBR250R last year worldwide. It is truly a great bike. For anyone up to 6 feet/ 220 pounds, at $4100 it is a steal.
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