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Old 02-06-2013, 09:25 AM   #46
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Mrs. H and I just bought a 2013 Fiat 500 Sport Turbo and it is a fun, fast, good handling, comfortable car. I can't express how much we like this car. We retired her 1988 Alfa Milano Verde with about 250K on the clock. We have driven Alfas for 35 years. I was hoping for Alfa to return but the Milano was becoming unreliable and Alfa won't be here with anything I want or am able to afford anytime soon. I like the seating position in the Fiat. It gives a good view of the road.The Mini I test drove felt like like i was sitting on the floor. I felt the ride in the Mini was harsher.
Push the sport button in the Fiat and it really moves out. We test drove all three Sport,Sport Turbo and Abarth.
The Sport was just adequate and the I found the exhaust note on the Abarth to be really loud and unpleasant. Hey I'm old. I would have gotten the Abarth but the exhaust noise was the deal breaker. However,chacun à son goût. The 500T is more than adequate for the mostly suburban driving we do.I have been able to carry a 6 ft tall friend in the back seat and he said he was fine except for his head just touching the roof and getting out of the back was less than elegant. I have had it on the turnpike and we were surprised to be doing 85 and feeling like it was 60. I felt like I had lots of pedal left. I also like the fit and finish of the car. It's inexpensive but not cheap.

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:06 AM   #47
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Old 02-06-2013, 04:19 PM   #48
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I am just fascinated by the little Fiat. Growing up, my best friend's family had nothing but Fiats, including a race car. I always stop to gawk when I see the 60's 500's, and the Abarth sounds like a hoot. Unfortunately, my wife took one look and decided it was ugly. She wants the Audi TT, which does make sense considering all the black ice and snow she commutes on.

I'll get to play with one, though. I plan to rent an Abarth for a couple of weeks when I go to the UK for the Isle of Man TT (hoping to rent a Triumph bike for the time on the Isle, though). I wonder how long it will take to train my left hand to operate the shifter...
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:46 PM   #49
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Love the sound of a tuned Abarth.
This one is the X1/9 from the 70's

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Old 02-06-2013, 06:11 PM   #50
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I briefly had a Fiat 128 once and it was a hoot. Anyway, I heard a Abarth 500 pull away from a light the other day. I think they over did it with that exhaust, but I don't know if it sounds objectionable from inside the car.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:36 AM   #51
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I think they over did it with that exhaust, but I don't know if it sounds objectionable from inside the car.
It doesn't. It's amazing, actually, that while cruising along at freeway speeds, there is NO DRONE at all. It's as quiet on the freeway as our 07 Xterra. The exhaust is really dual personality -- it can be loud when you want, and quiet when you want. Just depends how you feel like driving.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:08 PM   #52
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I'd say Chrysler is but Fiat isn't by any means one of the worst car companies in the last 20 years.....maybe you haven't been to Europe and driven Fiats.
Yea only I have. The "fantastic" fiat punta... Er punto.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:08 AM   #53
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Yeah the first gen minis were rattle traps but our second gen is very tight. Biggest thing on the s model is ditch the run flats. They ruin the ride and are very noisy. Ours was a different car after we ditched them.


You can get Michelin Pilot Sport A/Ws for about US$125.00/tire at Costco for them.

I've had two second gens. A 2010 JCW Clubman and a 2012 Coupe S. The Coupe S was faster than the JCW.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:45 AM   #54
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We retired her 1988 Alfa Milano Verde with about 250K on the clock.
You lost me after this line.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:52 AM   #55
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My boss is on the short list to get one of these:

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:48 AM   #56
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Sounds like a well tuned Yugo!
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:07 AM   #57
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You can get Michelin Pilot Sport A/Ws for about US$125.00/tire at Costco for them.

I've had two second gens. A 2010 JCW Clubman and a 2012 Coupe S. The Coupe S was faster than the JCW.
Still have the coupe? What is your take on ownership ?

You know, your posts about your cars almost steered me to get a Mini, which was not hard to do since i have driven and enjoyed them immensely. A Mini was on my short list when I went car shopping. I know you said the reliability issues were way overblown, but.......

I got something else
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:53 AM   #58
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I have the last of the supercharged Cooper S's, an '06 with about 50k with 2 sets of wheels (summer/winter, non-run flats). She's still very buttoned down and tight - no rattles. Most fun car I ever owned and I have no intentions to let her go or "up-grade." Driven the 2nd gen, turbo models extensively and while its a great car too, it feels... well more like a normal car... not quite as "raw" or go cart-like as the 1st gen does.

Took a very spirited ride (as a passenger) back from NYC IMS in my buddies Abarth. Seems like an awesome car too. I was uneasy at the pace - guess passengers always feel that way - but the car could hold its own no problem. Only thing that felt weird was the seat/car height somehow... felt tallish which gave a sort of "tippy" sensation vs a Mini, but then again, it could just be the passenger thing.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:01 AM   #59
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My local dealer has about 5 of the Abarth's. I really don't need to go test drive one though.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:16 PM   #60
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We looked and drove both the Fiat 500 and the Mini Cooper. We bought the Cooper S as it felt hands-down faster, tighter and better built than the Fiat, at least to us. No mechanical issues whatsoever after 14,000 miles.

The only negative I have with the car is the front seats are brutal. I'm 6'-5" 210 lbs and have more than enough head and leg room (even with the sunroof), but the seats are just too narrow. I'm not exactly a fat ass but can't wait to get out after about 40 miles. They're awful.

Other than that, it's a wicked-fun car. Fortunately, it's my wifes daily driver or I'd be getting into trouble with it.
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