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Old 04-06-2015, 05:48 PM   #1
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The V Lift

This unique mechanical lift was invented by a guy here in Florida. From what I understand, he makes them and markets them himself. I am thinking about getting one for my recently acquired Electra Glide.

My thoughts before actually seeing or using one.

Pros:
-Can be used to store the bike upright, saving space.
-Could add another level of security if would-be thieves can't figure out how to lower it.
-Would be nice for cleaning the bike and checking tire pressures.
-Made in the USA.
Cons:
-Pricey.
-Doesn't lift the bike high enough for tire removal.

Thoughts?

http://thevlift.com/

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Old 04-06-2015, 07:17 PM   #2
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Nifty! I appreciate the back story as well. Gotta love good old fashioned inventiveness.
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:26 PM   #3
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Interesting. If it can't lift the wheels off of the ground, though, what's the use? You can get a cheapo bike lift that will for not much money and you can store the bike upright with that too.
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:56 AM   #4
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I got a harbor freight material lift table in the fall. It has been great for storing bikes. It has wheels so I can push bikes around the garage. I can even fit two bikes on it and store them in a much smaller space than if they were on kick stands. With the lift table, I don't see the need for something like this. I can do tire changes and other maintenance work on the table.

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Old 04-08-2015, 02:54 PM   #5
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It seems like it's main advantage is that it's light and easy to store when you're not using it.

As others have pointed out, it doesn't have much capability beyond cleaning and parking.
So, if you are going to park on it all the time, that eliminates the downside of the cheap lift (heavier and more difficult to store when not in use because, well, you're using it all the time).

It's a neat idea and all, but it seems pricey by comparison.
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Old 04-09-2015, 12:19 PM   #6
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Glad the guy has an idea and decided to run with it, but it's grossly overpriced at $229 + $30 shipping.

You can get a hydraulic lift from Northern Tool for $129.
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Glad the guy has an idea and decided to run with it, but it's grossly overpriced at $229 + $30 shipping.

You can get a hydraulic lift from Northern Tool for $129.

It is sad to see someone who designs and makes something in the USA but really can't make a go at it because of Chinese products on the market. I am stopping now before getting punted to CSM.


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Old 04-09-2015, 02:14 PM   #8
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Sad? maybe.

Charging $229 for that thing is ridiculous. So it's not that sad.

I still don't get the point of this thing.

What does it actually do? I see it lifts the bike up. For what? Can't change a tire, can't do maintenance, so it just lifts it up. Is that to keep the bike from being tipped over? Always thought that was what a kick stand is for.
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Sad? maybe.

Charging $229 for that thing is ridiculous. So it's not that sad.

I do some hobby level metal fabrication. I see how much work would go into making one of those. The raw materials are probably approaching $100 (powder coat, leather straps, square steel tubing, flat steel plate, misc fasteners).


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I do some hobby level metal fabrication. I see how much work would go into making one of those. The raw materials are probably approaching $100 (powder coat, leather straps, square steel tubing, flat steel plate, misc fasteners).


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Exactly... A buddy of mine wanted to build a snowmobile lift from plans that are on line. Materials were about $25 less than he could buy one for. He bought one I found for him on line with free shipping.

This guy is likely basing his pricing on buying materials for and building one unit at a time. No way he is making much money doing it like that even at the price he is charging.
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Old 04-10-2015, 04:24 AM   #11
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Pros:
-Can be used to store the bike upright, saving space.
-Could add another level of security if would-be thieves can't figure out how to lower it.
-Would be nice for cleaning the bike and checking tire pressures.
-Made in the USA.
Cons:
-Pricey.
-Doesn't lift the bike high enough for tire removal.
Pros:
-Easily stored out of the way when not in use. Minimal shop space footprint.
-Lifts both tires off the ground, so it might be able to do a tire change.

Cons:
-Slip as it "locks" into the raised position and you can easily dent your tank with the lever.
-May not work well on a lowered bike.
-Does not allow rotating the bike like a standard bike jack does. Only sideways motion.
-Thieves would have no trouble figuring out how to drop it.
-If the wheels catch when pushing sideways, it can collapse.

Fwiw, you can essentially duplicate this for $20 using a 2x8 and a 3' piece of pipe. I've one of these myself. It works, but since I've a bike jack, I tend to use that instead.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/bikelift.htm

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Old 04-10-2015, 05:37 AM   #12
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I think you are missing my point. It's not the price vs the cost of materials.

It's the price relative to what it does. Build a better trap and you can charge more for the product and users will gladly pay it.

Still can't see how this is an effective stand.
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Glad the guy has an idea and decided to run with it, but it's grossly overpriced at $229 + $30 shipping.

You can get a hydraulic lift from Northern Tool for $129.
It's not like he's spending a ton on production for his marketing videos
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Old 04-11-2015, 03:45 PM   #14
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Pros:
-Easily stored out of the way when not in use. Minimal shop space footprint.
-Lifts both tires off the ground, so it might be able to do a tire change.

Cons:
-Slip as it "locks" into the raised position and you can easily dent your tank with the lever.
-May not work well on a lowered bike.
-Does not allow rotating the bike like a standard bike jack does. Only sideways motion.
-Thieves would have no trouble figuring out how to drop it.
-If the wheels catch when pushing sideways, it can collapse.

Fwiw, you can essentially duplicate this for $20 using a 2x8 and a 3' piece of pipe. I've one of these myself. It works, but since I've a bike jack, I tend to use that instead.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/bikelift.htm
You interestingly listed one of my "cons" as a pro and then posted a few "cons" that I don't understand. For one, there is no "pushing sideways" once the bike is on the lift, the wheels are only on one side.

I am not selling this, I just wanted to show that there are options in the marketplace. This is being marketed (admittedly on the cheap) specifically for Harleys since they don't come with centerstands but aftermarket centerstands are certainly available.

I am leaning against buying one for myself but I appreciate all the feedback.
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