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Old 01-17-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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Question Wolf Side Racks + Kriega US-30 = ?

Wolfman's side racks with their expedition dry saddlebags is an appealing setup, BUT I'd like a little more space without going to a bag on the seat or hard panniers.

Soooooo... I'm thinking Wolf rack + Kriega 30's...

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with a couple of these attached...



Anyone done it?
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:11 AM   #2
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I find my Wolfman kind of small too for some trips so I've been thinking of modding a Seal LIne 35 liter dry bag to attach to the racks.

http://cascadedesigns.com/sealline/p...y-pack/product

I had a Kreiga 10 that I bought with the tank bag adapter but didn't really like it for that application as it had a roll top and that's too much trouble on a tank bag. I thought that one of the two fabrics they use would hold a lot of dirt and not clean easily like the Wolfman or Seal Line vinyl.

Modding the Kreiga might be easier so I'm interested to hear others ideas as well.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:50 AM   #3
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Interested in this too...but are a couple Kriega 30's bigger than the Wolfman saddle bags ? Hard to figure out...
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:59 AM   #4
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Hello,
Sounds like you have Wolfman now, if you get another brand would you like to sell them?

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Old 01-19-2012, 10:12 AM   #5
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Interested in this too...but are a couple Kriega 30's bigger than the Wolfman saddle bags ? Hard to figure out...
Wolfman's Expedition saddlebags are 19L each. So yeah we'd be gaining 11L each side with a couple Kriega 30s. I just didn't want to be the guinea pig dropping $$$ to learn weather or not the bags will work OK with the rack.

Maybe someone has been there-done that already...?
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:31 AM   #6
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Kreiga says their 30l bag is 17.5 x 11.5 x 9 approx

Woflman is 13 x 13 x 7

Enduristan says they are adjustable from 15l to 30l but so far can'r find actual dimensions

OK found it: •Measurements: 13" long, 8" wide and 12-16" tall

Ortlieb are 12.2 x 16.9 x 7.1 for 24 liters plus they have the QL2 attachment system that will probably mount right to the Wolfman racks

http://www.ortliebusa.com/CartGenie/prod-58.htm
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:41 AM   #7
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Wolfman's Expedition saddlebags are 19L each. So yeah we'd be gaining 11L each side with a couple Kriega 30s. I just didn't want to be the guinea pig dropping $$$ to learn weather or not the bags will work OK with the rack.

Maybe someone has been there-done that already...?
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Kreiga says their 30l bag is 17.5 x 11.5 x 9 approx

Woflman is 13 x 13 x 7

Enduristan says they are adjustable from 15l to 30l but so far can'r find actual dimensions
That's what I saw too so that's why I was a little confused - they appear to have similar dimensions but how can the Wolfman only be 19 and the Kriega 30
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #8
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I multiplied it out in mm ( 445(H) x 295(W) x 225(D) mm) and it came to 29.5 l ... something funny going on
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:05 PM   #9
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That's what I saw too so that's why I was a little confused - they appear to have similar dimensions but how can the Wolfman only be 19 and the Kriega 30
17 is 31% bigger than 13. 9 is 30% bigger than 7. Thats how the Kreiga is bigger.
Wolfman is 1183 cubic inches (19.4L)
Kreiga is 1811 cubic inches (29.7L)
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:16 PM   #10
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Yeah, it doesn't take much of a difference in dimensions to really ramp up the volume. Looks like the Kriega already has the surface mounted strap buckles so flipping it to the vertical and strapping it up to the Wolfman rack shouldn't be too difficult. Realize that a fellow inmate, BBriggs, manufacturers the Wolfman racks. He could likely customize the size of the hoop on the racks or location of the strap mounts to better fit the 30L Kriega. Someone try this out as these are two of my favorite products.
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Old 01-19-2012, 02:33 PM   #11
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I find my Wolfman kind of small too for some trips so I've been thinking of modding a Seal LIne 35 liter dry bag to attach to the racks.

http://cascadedesigns.com/sealline/p...y-pack/product
I was looking at the Sea to Summit Big River line. They have lash loops on the side so attaching them could be pretty easy... They are cheap. Material is 420 D Nylon... I am not familiar with these materials, so I have no clue about durability (Seal Line is 19 oz. scrim-reinforced vinyl side with heavy duty 30 oz. scrim-reinforced vinyl bottom)...

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Old 01-19-2012, 03:46 PM   #12
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Hey I may have it here....

The Wolf rack + Ortlieb Low Profile Dry Bags.



With some modification to the straps, of course.
2100 cu inches. Not bad.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:53 PM   #13
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2100 cubic inches (34.4 liter) total for the Ortlieb is smaller than the Expedition...
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #14
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Ortlieb are 12.2 x 16.9 x 7.1 for 24 liters plus they have the QL2 attachment system that will probably mount right to the Wolfman racks

http://www.ortliebusa.com/CartGenie/prod-58.htm
Yeah I ran those QL2 Ortlieb's on a DRZ for a couple years. Extremely easy off/on a rack, but they NEVER came close to coming off on their own. Nice.

Now you've got me thinking about the Wolf rack + Ortlieb Back Roller Plus.



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2100 cubic inches (34.4 liter) total for the Ortlieb is smaller than the Expedition...
Yeah. In only a few posts, I'm beginning to trade off size for ease-of-use.
I do dig the Wolf rack, though.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:05 PM   #15
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That's the rub .... if you want volume you have to start getting creative
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