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Old 08-11-2014, 04:22 PM   #1
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HHO genrators? does the fuel saving magic work?

I've come across many HHO generatoes and the idea is that using destiled water, the current from a 12v battery and sodium hidroxide you brake the molecules from the water and then you get an improvement on fuel and power, because the free pure oxigen works as comburent and the free Hidrogen works as a combustible that ignites the other combustible: gasoline. Something like an all day long nitrous oxide with the extra fuel included and for cheap.

There are claims that it saves you up to 50% of gas and ads 10% power to the engine because you incres the octanes on your fuel and is much more efficent the burning in the chambers leading to much cleaner exhaust gasses.

I have not tested it myself but there are both, things that make me believe it can work and that that's a scam:

1: For the scam:

How do you start the production and how do you stop it so that it works according with the engine revolutions?

For the viability:

It seems to liberate the gasses and actually burns when applying a heat source, like a flame or spark.


Have you ever tried? I'm tempted to test on a old shovelhead I'm rebuilding. But first I'd love to get some feedback from real people insted of the bunch of vidoes of anonimous Jhon Does from youtube.

Also it could work as a torch for repairs on the go

Any experiences?

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Old 08-11-2014, 05:04 PM   #2
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I've come across many HHO generatoes and the idea is that using destiled water, the current from a 12v battery and sodium bicarbonate you brake the molecules from the watter and then you get an improvement on fuel and power, because the free pure oxigen works as comburent and the free Hidrogen works as a combustible that ignites the other combustible: gasoline. Something like an all day long nitrous oxide with the extra fuel inluded.

There are claims that it saves you up to 50% of gas and ads 10% power to the engine because you incres the octanes on your fuel and is much more efficent the burning in the chambers leading to much cleaner exhaust gasses.

I have not tested it myself but there are both, things that make me believe it can work and that that's a scam:

1: For the scam:

How do you start the production and how do you stop it so that it works according with the engine revolutions?

For the viability:

It seems to liberate the gasses and actually burns when applying a heat source, like a flame or spark.


Have you ever tried? I'm tempted to test on a old shovelhead I'm rebuilding. But first I'd love to get some feedback from real people insted of the bunch of vidoes of anonimous Jhon Does from youtube.

Also it could work as a torch for repairs on the go

Any experiences?


How many CFM of Oxygen and Hydrogen do you figure you'll be getting?
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:10 PM   #3
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Total synthetic SNAKE OIL, which is the worst kind of snake oil if you ask some people.
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:16 PM   #4
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Never used one but my neighbors son hooked one up in his Subaru. Never made a difference good or bad in performance or fuel consumption. Think he ran it through the summer before he removed it and threw it in the trash. Guess the theory is sound because it actually does create some hydrogen. You can light the gas coming out of the hose but the unit doesn't produce much volume or pressure. Think weak pilot light. His entire unit was about the size of a cigar box.
Pure novelty toy.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:15 PM   #5
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:28 PM   #6
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Breaking a water molecule apart into Hydrogen and Oxygen takes many times more energy to do than you get out of it. If anyone ever figures a way to do it that without huge losses they will be the richest person in history very quickly.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:30 PM   #7
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hahahahaha Snake Oil
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:31 PM   #8
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Rates up there with turning lead into gold.
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:10 PM   #9
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Sidecar content?







He rides a shovelhead. His hands are probably shaking so much that he missed when trying to click on 'Garage'.


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Old 08-12-2014, 09:52 AM   #10
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so nobody has direct experience, just guessing as well.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:04 AM   #11
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There is no such thing as free energy, it comes from somewhere. With this piece of crap, it comes from the battery and alternator. There is NO WAY that any such device could have a net positive effect. But, a net negative effect is a certainty. Both on the wallet and the vehicle.

A better result would be had from eating beans and piping the resultant fumes to the engine...
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:08 AM   #12
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science says it can not work, you can not get more energy out than you put in. If you figure out a way to do that patent it fast, cause you are gonna be really really rich...
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:09 AM   #13
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so nobody has direct experience, just guessing as well.
There is no guessing.
Just grade 8 physics.
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:15 PM   #14
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They work great







at separating a fool from his money
Physics says you are at a loss. Pure hydrogen is a crappy fuel as well.
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Old 08-12-2014, 12:25 PM   #15
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so nobody has direct experience, just guessing as well.
I watched a co worker attempt several designs. after one design failed, he tried another. he quit soon after one his otherwise nice and reliable engine ingested about a gallon of the source water while traveling down the interstate.

there wasn't a straight piece in the engine after that, even the drive shaft was a pretzel.
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