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Old 01-31-2012, 11:21 PM   #61
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The whole lower Island has a bunch of 'micro climates'. The Cow Valley is one of them hence the proliferation of wineries and farms raising exotic animals and growing great fresh produce. Victoria gets 50% less rain the Vancouver. With the Olympics just across the water helping to push the weather over and around us we have it pretty good moisture wise. The drivers on the other hand are from another world . That topic has been beaten to death on an old thread so we won't go there.
Victoria gets much less rain in the summer months, although pretty close to Vancouver in the winter. My first year at UVic I think I saw more rain in two weeks than I had seen in my entire life combined. While there are some drier areas on the leeward side of the island (rainshadow effect) and from the Olympic range in the US, ultimately the climate is dictated by the Pacific and Salish Sea... wet. That said, the Port Alberni valley is the anomaly and gets stinking hot in the summer.
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Old 02-01-2012, 07:58 PM   #62
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I was reading some weather study a few years back which mentioned that the east coast of the Island was becoming noticeably drier as compared to other decades. As a result, there was a concern that the Western Red Cedar would have a more difficult time surviving where it had thrived for centuries. I'm hoping that the water supply for the east coast can support the increased populution demands that are being placed on it - at least until I croak.

The Alberni Valley summer can be quite uncomfortable to live through - however the onshore afternoon breeze from the canal tends to create wonderful warm evenings. I was lucky in that I lived close to Sproat Lake for my early years - there was always a noticeable drop in temperature out there, during the regular hot spells.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:05 PM   #63
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I read somewhere once, the warmest annual average temperature in Canada is Honeymoon Bay, Lake Cowichan.
Wish I could remember the reference to add some credibility to that statement.
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:48 PM   #64
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I read somewhere once, the warmest annual average temperature in Canada is Honeymoon Bay, Lake Cowichan.
Wish I could remember the reference to add some credibility to that statement.
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/auth/englis...erweather.html

http://www.livingin-canada.com/canadian-climates.html


Osoyoos weather,


The climate, according to the Kppen climate classification, is semi-arid (BSk)[12] with summers that are generally hot and dry. The result is one of the longest growing seasons in Canada and the highest annual average maximum temperature anywhere in the country.[citation needed] Daily temperatures in July and August average above 30C (86F), with overnight lows of around 14C (57F) with low humidity. September and October are usually dry and sunny with cool mornings. Winters are short and mild, but can be cold for brief periods during arctic outflow conditions. Spring arrives earlier than other parts of the Okanagan. The table below includes temperature records for the "Osoyoos CS" station (with records from 19902011), and precipitation values from the "Osoyoos West" station (with records from 19712001). It is important to note that these temperature records are only go back as far as 1990, meaning that higher and lower extremes have likely occurred. Of note, the town of Oliver just over 20 km north of Osoyoos reached 43.9C on July 16, 1941 the same day that Lytton and Lillooet hit the highest temperature ever recorded in British Columbia of 44.4C.[13] It is quite possible that on this day that Osoyoos met or surpassed this record as Osoyoos tends to be warmer than Oliver.[13] Numerous websites peg annual sunshine at 2039 hours, however no site sources this fact, it is relatively consistent with other Okanagan communities.[13] It is important to note that the area's climate is variable depending on elevation, for instance, a climate station 25 km northeast of the town in the mountains, records an annual average snowfall of 650 cm.[14] During the summer months, the southern Okanagan Valley is among the hottest areas in Canada, and Osoyoos often reaches the highest daytime temperature of any location in Canada.[citation needed] Temperatures typically reach the upper 30s (Celsius) (95-104F) in the summer for short periods of time.[15] Although it is hot, the humidity is low and nights are generally pleasant. Winters are generally dry and cool, but are usually mild compared to directly adjacent regions.
[hide]Climate data for Osoyoos
MonthJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecYear
Record high C (F)17.5
(63.5)
17
(63)
25.4
(77.7)
32.8
(91.0)
36.1
(97.0)
39.9
(103.8)
42.8
(109.0)
41.7
(107.1)
37.5
(99.5)
28.9
(84.0)
21.1
(70.0)
14.9
(58.8)
42.8
(109.0)
Average high C (F)1.9
(35.4)
6.2
(43.2)
12.3
(54.1)
17.7
(63.9)
22.9
(73.2)
26.5
(79.7)
31.5
(88.7)
30.9
(87.6)
25.5
(77.9)
16.2
(61.2)
7.4
(45.3)
1.8
(35.2)
16.8
(62.2)
Average low C (F)−4.1
(24.6)
−2.8
(27.0)
−0.1
(31.8)
3.4
(38.1)
8.0
(46.4)
11.7
(53.1)
14.5
(58.1)
13.7
(56.7)
9.1
(48.4)
3.7
(38.7)
−0.6
(30.9)
−3.7
(25.3)
4.4
(39.9)
Record low C (F)−21.5
(−6.7)
−20.9
(−5.6)
−11.5
(11.3)
−7.3
(18.9)
−6.3
(20.7)
2.3
(36.1)
6.1
(43.0)
4.0
(39.2)
−1.3
(29.7)
−9.8
(14.4)
−16.9
(1.6)
−21.7
(−7.1)
−21.7
(−7.1)
Precipitation mm (inches)27.8
(1.094)
25.5
(1.004)
22.5
(0.886)
23.5
(0.925)
37.4
(1.472)
35.9
(1.413)
24.3
(0.957)
21.2
(0.835)
16.1
(0.634)
17.1
(0.673)
32.1
(1.264)
34.2
(1.346)
317.6
(12.504)
Rainfall mm (inches)11.9
(0.469)
17.9
(0.705)
20.3
(0.799)
23.4
(0.921)
37.4
(1.472)
35.9
(1.413)
24.3
(0.957)
21.2
(0.835)
16.1
(0.634)
16.8
(0.661)
25.8
(1.016)
17
(0.67)
267.9
(10.547)
Snowfall cm (inches)15.9
(6.26)
7.7
(3.03)
2.2
(0.87)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0
(0)
0.3
(0.12)
6.3
(2.48)
17.3
(6.81)
49.6
(19.53)
Source: Environment Canada[16]

Average number of days:[15]
  • above 20C (68F): 154.8 (Max number of days, 1994: 174) Compared to averages 74.6 in Vancouver,[17]
85.5 in Calgary[18] and 118 in Toronto.[19]
  • above 30C (86F): 53.7 (Max number of days, 1994: 78) Compared to averages 0.44 in Vancouver,[17] 4.5 in Calgary[18] and 12.6 in Toronto.[19]

Oliver,,,,,that's where I'm going to retire!!!!!

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Old 02-01-2012, 11:53 PM   #65
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I read somewhere once, the warmest annual average temperature in Canada is Honeymoon Bay, Lake Cowichan.
There really isn't much in Honeymoon Bay, though.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:59 AM   #66
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I was reading some weather study a few years back which mentioned that the east coast of the Island was becoming noticeably drier as compared to other decades. As a result, there was a concern that the Western Red Cedar would have a more difficult time surviving where it had thrived for centuries. I'm hoping that the water supply for the east coast can support the increased populution demands that are being placed on it - at least until I croak.

The Alberni Valley summer can be quite uncomfortable to live through - however the onshore afternoon breeze from the canal tends to create wonderful warm evenings. I was lucky in that I lived close to Sproat Lake for my early years - there was always a noticeable drop in temperature out there, during the regular hot spells.
Don't forget about the killer fungas Cryptococcus neoformans var. gattii the microscopic yeast typically found in various eucalyptus and other tropical and sub-tropical trees found on southern Vancouver Island.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:19 AM   #67
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Don't forget about the killer fungas Cryptococcus neoformans var. gattii the microscopic yeast typically found in various eucalyptus and other tropical and sub-tropical trees found on southern Vancouver Island.
Not to worry - it only takes out weak city people. I'm not one of those yet.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:37 PM   #68
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There really isn't much in Honeymoon Bay, though.
There were a heck of a lot of bugs when I was there
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:17 PM   #69
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Victoria gets much less rain in the summer months, although pretty close to Vancouver in the winter. My first year at UVic I think I saw more rain in two weeks than I had seen in my entire life combined. While there are some drier areas on the leeward side of the island (rainshadow effect) and from the Olympic range in the US, ultimately the climate is dictated by the Pacific and Salish Sea... wet. That said, the Port Alberni valley is the anomaly and gets stinking hot in the summer.
It's not close at all -- Victoria gets almost exactly *half* the rain of Vancouver, on average. And in Victoria, that's pretty much entirely in the winter. We frequently get summers where it doesn't rain at all, and all the grass goes dead.

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Total annual precipitation is just 608 mm (23.9 in) at the Gonzales weather station in Victoria, contrasted to nearby Seattle, (137 km/85 mi away to the southeast), with 970 mm (38.2 in) of rainfall, or Vancouver, 100 km (62 mi) away, with 1,219 mm (48 in) of rainfall.
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There were a heck of a lot of bugs when I was there
That's one thing I have to say in favour of living in the Lower Mainland - there are very few bugs. Mosquitos? You might get three or four a night when you sit in the back yard in the summer time. My guess is that bugs don't want to live here either..... I will be very pleased to say goodbye to the smell of a skunk that has let loose his wonderful stench - I'm starting to get a whiff of them as I drive through neighbourhoods - the season is now upon us.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:24 AM   #71
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That's the grow-ops your smelling Jack! Must be harvest time.
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Old 02-04-2012, 09:19 AM   #72
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Not exactly what your looking for, but for the cost of a house on Vancouver Island one could have a nice beach front cottage in PEI for the summers AND a condo in Florida for the winter. Just sayin'

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Old 02-04-2012, 10:20 AM   #73
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What are the taxes like in PEI? (sales tax, muni tax, auto/bike insurance rates)?
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Spent 20 years on Vancouver island, and most of those were spent trying to get away from it. Utterly unaffordable, can't find a house that is actually worth its value. And after 20 years of never-ending grey rain for "winter", that sucked the soul, too.

Now, if you have $450,000 to throw away at a "home" that would sell for 85,000 in the Maritimes, you go right ahead.

Oh, and don't forget the politics. the place may soon go to the NDP again which is pretty much a death sentence for the economy. I had to endure two NDP terms there, and the "shovel your dollars so we can pay off our union masters" bullshit killed the industries I was working in at the time.
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I've got family and friends out here - I'm not interested in exchanging ends of the country to save on a purchase. For those of you that have family there and are biding your time before your return, I wish you all the best as well. You'll be going home and I plan on doing the same when I head to the Island.

I still believe that the Island market will be making an adjustment soon - it's already happening in Port Alberni. The Catalyst pulp mill issues are going to take a chunk out of the industrial base and I forecast this to affect prices as well. Interesting times these are.

I imagine that the roads around Victoria were full of bikes this weekend. I was pleasantly surprised to see the number of machines out that I saw today on the way to Squamish. I was checking out Real Estate up there today as well - prices are very high because of the promiximity to Vancouver - it is now a bedroom community. The Island is a much better deal than that area.
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