ask Woody about your Yamaha Supere Tenere XT1200Z wheels

[woody's wheel works]

Originally Posted by jaumev

Yes... a long silence...
A new question: with the 18” rear wheel, do you think there is enough space in the swing arm to put a tire with big knobs?

check this post for tire sizes we think may work,,,

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=35

Greg n i,,, after a bunch of discussion settled on using a 140/80 x18 knobby ,,the lower profile works better with a 3.5x 18 rim,,,it's 3/4'' narrower than the 4.25x17 rim used for the 150/70 x17 tires...notice that the lower the aspect ratio the wider the rims that are called for. this tire rim combo falls into what i call a great ''all-around'' tire/rim size ie: the 50-50 setup..

if you're mainly interested in offroad..than the 2.5 x18 and a 140/90 knobby may prove better...sidewalls pulled in ,,more rim protection,,,,

woody

[jaumev]

Originally Posted by woody's wheel works

check this post for tire sizes we think may work,,,

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=35

Greg n i,,, after a bunch of discussion settled on using a 140/80 x18 knobby ,,the lower profile works better with a 3.5x 18 rim,,,it's 3/4'' narrower than the 4.25x17 rim used for the 150/70 x17 tires...notice that the lower the aspect ratio the wider the rims that are called for. this tire rim combo falls into what i call a great ''all-around'' tire/rim size ie: the 50-50 setup..

if you're mainly interested in offroad..than the 2.5 x18 and a 140/90 knobby may prove better...sidewalls pulled in ,,more rim protection,,,,

woody

OK! Thanks

[woody's wheel works]

just got some photos shot....


here's the Superlite II hub with Super Tenere kit . It includes:

12 ST disc adapters
2 ea outer spacers
4 ea 6906-2RS bearings repacked with waterproof,grease
1 ea inner spacer

From Superlite Super Tenere Wheel Development

before n after we re-grease em with the proper amount n type of hi-speed water-proof boat wheel bearing grease,,so you all can have peace of mind crossing rivers,streams and billabongs

From Superlite Super Tenere Wheel Development

we present the SUPERLITE-ST hub assy with matching spacers

From Superlite Super Tenere Wheel Development

and sporting a pair of 11.75 Galfer wavy/floating discs,,,we'll be using 320mm units machined down to 310mm,,,if i order 100 ,Galfer will give em to us in the correct dimension

From Superlite Super Tenere Wheel Development

From Superlite Super Tenere Wheel Development

here's another teaser,,,SUPER-DUTY SS SPOKES sporting machined SS nipples!!!,

no more rusting,,no more corrosion,,,no more snapping,,,no more loosening [comes with set screws],,,and no more having 3-4 spoke threads show up at the nipple,,,

From Superlite Super Tenere Wheel Development

here's a quick peek at the new ss nipples on the left ; vs old short BMW style on the right,,,,notice how they cover the threads

left to right:
a.. new 4mm bmw WWW super-duty ss spoke with longer ss nipple
b..3.5mm oem bmw ss spoke with new WWW longer ss nipple
c..3.5mm oem bmw with powder-coated steel nipple [post '98]
d.. 3.5mm oem bmw painted nipple [pre '98]



so here's a pic showing the oem size galvanized spoke and nipple and our new Super-Duty 6g x.175 ss spoke and it's ss nipple for your Super Teneres,,,..the four BMW nipples to right were explained in the previous caption/pic



,,,,did a little measuring /weighing with what was readily available

1,,SUPERDUTY ss n ss spoke n nipple kit =2 lbs -11oz

2,,,1.6 x21 Excel double sig = =========3lbs 7.5oz
or,,, 1.85x21 Excel ==============

3,,,complete hub assy with 11.75'' Galfer disc= 7 lbs 7.5 oz

4,,hence the wheel should weigh in at 13lbs 10oz as is ,,,,,i cant imagine adding more than for the slightly wider rim and 12.2'' discs

FYI,,a 90/90x21 Rally Raid with inner tube and rim band weigh 8lbs 10oz

When i get more data,,,i'll edit it all again,,,several of my troopies are out so i didn't have access to the other data
w

[Dallara]

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Jay-Sus, Woody!

Those things are *GORGEOUS*!!!

Any more word on getting those to work with the stock ABS/TCS? And will they be available to lace to some stronger, tubeless rims in the stock 19" front and 17" rear sizes?

Thanks!

Dallara


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[Wasp]

Originally Posted by woody's wheel works

Thanks to Power Girl AND WOODY....
....It still works!

Greg.

[jaumev]

Whow!!

[woody's wheel works]

Originally Posted by Dallara

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Jay-Sus, Woody!

Those things are *GORGEOUS*!!! yeah,,,i feel your pain

Any more word on getting those to work with the stock ABS/TCS?sorry not yet,,,you all will be the first to know,,,

And will they be available to lace to some stronger, tubeless rims in the stock 19" front and 17" rear sizes? right now the Superlite ST is only available for the front as pictured,,now that hub can be laced to any conventional 36h rim and if it has a safety bead we can seal it for you.

once again the pickle we all are in is that Yamaha chose to go with 32 spokes on this beast,,,that puts a lot of load on the little spokes that are in there...over the years we have found that 36h are optimal for transmitting the energy....the other factor is that there are simply no 32h rims available in the sizes we need....so we are left to use dimple-less rims and drill them according to our needs.

Thanks!

Dallara
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w

[woody's wheel works]

good news mates,,,yesterday afternoon Zach my numero uno Super-lacer stumbled upon an OEM KTM 310mm rotor,,,don't remember off-hand the model it's used on,,you just have to know it's gorgeous[[probably because it's made by Galfer and or Braking[who used to be part of Galfer from what i'm told] weighs 2lbs 7oz or 1105.6grams and is 5mm x310mm

they list @ $310 ea that's $10 less than Galfer's price for the 320mm rotor,,,pics will follow,,,

FYI i ordered 5 ea

here's your lagniappe for the day..your very own oz to gram conversion table


1 Ounce = 28.3495231 Grams

To convert ounces to grams for any other values, or between gram to ounce conversion, please go to Weight Conversions



Ounce To Gram Chart

Ounce	Gram		Ounce	Gram		Ounce	Gram		Ounce	Gram
1	28.3495231		26	737.0876006		51	1445.825678		76	2154.563756
2	56.6990462		27	765.4371237		52	1474.175201		77	2182.913279
3	85.0485693		28	793.7866468		53	1502.524724		78	2211.262802
4	113.3980924		29	822.1361699		54	1530.874247		79	2239.612325
5	141.7476155		30	850.485693		55	1559.223771		80	2267.961848
6	170.0971386		31	878.8352161		56	1587.573294		81	2296.311371
7	198.4466617		32	907.1847392		57	1615.922817		82	2324.660894
8	226.7961848		33	935.5342623		58	1644.27234		83	2353.010417
9	255.1457079		34	963.8837854		59	1672.621863		84	2381.35994
10	283.495231		35	992.2333085		60	1700.971386		85	2409.709464
11	311.8447541		36	1020.582832		61	1729.320909		86	2438.058987
12	340.1942772		37	1048.932355		62	1757.670432		87	2466.40851
13	368.5438003		38	1077.281878		63	1786.019955		88	2494.758033
14	396.8933234		39	1105.631401		64	1814.369478		89	2523.107556
15	425.2428465		40	1133.980924		65	1842.719002		90	2551.457079
16	453.5923696		41	1162.330447		66	1871.068525		100	2834.95231
17	481.9418927		42	1190.67997		67	1899.418048		125	3543.690388
18	510.2914158		43	1219.029493		68	1927.767571		150	4252.428465
19	538.6409389		44	1247.379016		69	1956.117094		175	4961.166543
20	566.990462		45	1275.72854		70	1984.466617		200	5669.90462
21	595.3399851		46	1304.078063		71	2012.81614		250	7087.380775
22	623.6895082		47	1332.427586		72	2041.165663		300	8504.85693
23	652.0390313		48	1360.777109		73	2069.515186		500	14174.76155
24	680.3885544		49	1389.126632		74	2097.864709		750	21262.14233
25	708.7380775		50	1417.476155		75	2126.214233		1000	28349.5231

[woody's wheel works]

good news mates,,,yesterday afternoon Zach my numero uno Super-lacer stumbled upon an OEM KTM 310mm rotor,,,don't remember off-hand the model it's used on,,you just have to know it's gorgeous[[probably because it's made by Galfer and or Braking[who used to be part of Galfer from what i'm told] weighs 2lbs 7oz or 1105.6grams and is 5mm x310mm

they list @ $310 ea that's $10 less than Galfer's price for the 320mm rotor,,,





FYI i ordered 5 ea

here's your lagniappe for the day..your very own oz to gram conversion table


1 Ounce = 28.3495231 Grams

To convert ounces to grams for any other values, or between gram to ounce conversion, please go to Weight Conversions



Ounce To Gram Chart

Ounce	Gram		Ounce	Gram		Ounce	Gram		Ounce	Gram
1	28.3495231		26	737.0876006		51	1445.825678		76	2154.563756
2	56.6990462		27	765.4371237		52	1474.175201		77	2182.913279
3	85.0485693		28	793.7866468		53	1502.524724		78	2211.262802
4	113.3980924		29	822.1361699		54	1530.874247		79	2239.612325
5	141.7476155		30	850.485693		55	1559.223771		80	2267.961848
6	170.0971386		31	878.8352161		56	1587.573294		81	2296.311371
7	198.4466617		32	907.1847392		57	1615.922817		82	2324.660894
8	226.7961848		33	935.5342623		58	1644.27234		83	2353.010417
9	255.1457079		34	963.8837854		59	1672.621863		84	2381.35994
10	283.495231		35	992.2333085		60	1700.971386		85	2409.709464
11	311.8447541		36	1020.582832		61	1729.320909		86	2438.058987
12	340.1942772		37	1048.932355		62	1757.670432		87	2466.40851
13	368.5438003		38	1077.281878		63	1786.019955		88	2494.758033
14	396.8933234		39	1105.631401		64	1814.369478		89	2523.107556
15	425.2428465		40	1133.980924		65	1842.719002		90	2551.457079
16	453.5923696		41	1162.330447		66	1871.068525		100	2834.95231
17	481.9418927		42	1190.67997		67	1899.418048		125	3543.690388
18	510.2914158		43	1219.029493		68	1927.767571		150	4252.428465
19	538.6409389		44	1247.379016		69	1956.117094		175	4961.166543
20	566.990462		45	1275.72854		70	1984.466617		200	5669.90462
21	595.3399851		46	1304.078063		71	2012.81614		250	7087.380775
22	623.6895082		47	1332.427586		72	2041.165663		300	8504.85693
23	652.0390313		48	1360.777109		73	2069.515186		500	14174.76155
24	680.3885544		49	1389.126632		74	2097.864709		750	21262.14233
25	708.7380775		50	1417.476155		75	2126.214233		1000	28349.5231

[Thagua]

Hi Woody ... just to let you know that this week I'll have my front fender raised 30 mm as you can see below ... will have to extend the brake line that goes from one caliper to the other in another 30 mm ... give me your thoughts












How is my black 21" rim and spokes doing?
Cheers,
Thagua

[woody's wheel works]

Some possible color options,,,hopethat gold matches Greg's fork sliders

from amerika with lovexxxxx

[woody's wheel works]

Originally Posted by Thagua

Hi Woody ... just to let you know that this week I'll have my front fender raised 30 mm as you can see below Perfect... will have to extend the brake line that goes from one caliper to the other in another 30 mm ... give me your thoughts

since you asked

have been on the horn with Galfer ....i for one am not a proponent of X-over brake line systems for doing off road stuff,,too many incidences of stuff jamming and sending you flying,,there 's several threads on this forum detailing the nasty results of said encounters...Hence,,,i have a dual ss brake line system that will be able to be mounted /converted in less than half an hour..you will be able to convert back to oem just as easy

the left and right brake lines will both converge at the spot where the left line hooks into the junction box,,i believe we will be able to re-cycle the double banjo bolt that is used on your left caliper,,, the one at the junction box should work on your left caliper...

Greg n i are working on the correct angles and lengths....they should enhace the feel of your brakes...the Galfer rotors with their green pads will add another enhanced sensitivity to your braking experience..in a very good way...

here's a pic of that junction box: compliment sof the wasp-man




see the double banjo bolt ??? that'll be used up on the right side of the junction where the new lines will end up,,,
notice the clip/bracket that holds the inner line in place ??? i remember thinking that i could get one of those and modify it so it could be used on the right side in a similar manner,,,dang ,,i spaced out ordering it with all of your hubs n stuff







How is my black 21" rim and spokes doing?they are all sitting here waiting for that big package from Japan...we ordered oem discs and a sample of everything needed for the next step,,,Greg and a bunch of others want me to just build a Superlite version of the oem hub sporting the TC capability,,we'll see first things first ,and Thagua you are monzter spoke kit on oem hub with 21'' rim #001,,

and waspman get's double disc Superlite ST #001 as well as a single disc race Superlite ST-SD #001
Cheers,
Thagua

now i gotta take my sweetie out to dinner ,,
w

[Thagua]

Originally Posted by woody's wheel works

now i gotta take my sweetie out to dinner ,,
w

Howdy Woody ... excellent if you could make that brake lines coming independently from the junction to each caliper ... the guide used on the left side can be used also on the right side.
Trust what Wasp makes (I'm his loyal follower) and ... what would be the difference between the OEM hubs and the Superlite double discs ordered by Wasp? ... will I need new calipers for the Galfer rotors? ... much difference in price?
Keep your lady happy taking her out to dinner.
Cheers,
Thagua

[Hodgo]

Lookin Good.

Hovering around waiting to see what happens.

[obe01]

Originally Posted by woody's wheel works

Some possible color options,,,hopethat gold matches Greg's fork sliders

from amerika with lovexxxxx

Fark my black dog.....

Hey Woody is it wrong to be arroused by your piccies and work....mate..