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Old 12-25-2012, 11:15 AM   #4021
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Of course, my first round out, I got my ass handed to me. I suspect it'll take a little practice to get a good % in it.

Congrats on getting one of the funnest tier 10's in the game! I'm sure you'll do fine with it after some practice. And that Churchill score was awesome.

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In my buddy's defense (that first T21 player in the video), his different play style works out well enough. SMithy, you may want to take a look at this BatChat replay of his from I think this morning... It certainly isn't how I'd play it, but it both worked, and who knows how well my style would have helped the team anyway? This should be a free download after like a 15 second wait time - if it isn't, someone tell me so I will stop using this sharing site:
http://www.2shared.com/file/lg8mE-iN/20121225_0807_france-Bat_Chati.html

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Old 12-25-2012, 02:45 PM   #4022
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Cool replay.

This is how my thinking for this game has evolved. There are three kinds of shots one can take: The sure shot, which you know will hit your target, the Hopeful shot, which has some doubt attached but you can afford the round and luck will often enough work out, and the Foolish shot, which you know will miss but you pull the trigger anyway, because that's just what you do in the fog of war and excitement of the moment.

For tanks with large capacities and rapid reloads, discriminating between these is less important. The Churchill reigns in this department, being tough enough that exposing one's self through shooting isn't a big deal, and eventually you'll land enough hits to press through. It's a jackhammer.

For "normal" tanks, like the E8 or IS series, one usually advances to contact, finds a comfortable position (hull down behind cover is best), and proceeds to fire sure shots, with a few hopeful's thrown in there. Again, attrition and luck play a role, but if you do your job placing your gun in a hard to see and hard to hit location, the rest follows.

For a highly mobile tank, lights and mediums, the key to success lies in knowing the difference between a foolish, a hopeful, and a sure shot. Sure's are rare because you're usually on the move, held back, or under some kind of pressure, but knowing the difference between a hopeful shot and a foolish shot gets blurry in the heat of battle. Wasted rounds on foolish attempts screw you when it's reload time and you're trying to run instead of being offensive, and getting wound up about that can lose you the game, quickly, and at great cost.

And in this afternoon's play of the 25t, I can see that working out the difference between a foolish and hopeful shot, is going to be key. Can't just lob one over and hope it hits - chance and armor do enough to deflect a well-placed one, I need to be reasonably sure it will hit before squeezing one off and keeping the pressure on my enemy. Foolishly wasted rounds at this level mean death.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:33 PM   #4023
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Can't just lob one over and hope it hits - chance and armor do enough to deflect a well-placed one, I need to be reasonably sure it will hit before squeezing one off and keeping the pressure on my enemy. Foolishly wasted rounds at this level mean death.
Very well said, I started to realize, somewhere after tier 5 is where that distinction is made, depending on your gun that may be at tier 5, and for artilliary it is right at the inception of the line.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:42 PM   #4024
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Very well said, I started to realize, somewhere after tier 5 is where that distinction is made, depending on your gun that may be at tier 5, and for artilliary it is right at the inception of the line.
On my main account it was probably at tier 5 for me as well, but I was still a spaz in close-up battling, and didn't trust firing-on-the-move for a long time after, either.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:15 PM   #4025
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yeah, firing on the move for me means mostly misses...
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:17 PM   #4026
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I'm not sure what it is about the Churchill III but I find that thing to be *really* good at shooting on the move. You zoom in and the sight is bouncing around significantly less that any other tank I own.

I'd imagine it is similar to what having a "smooth ride" perk at 100% feels like?

I'm going to be grinding the IS3 tonight for a bit if anyone feels like slinging some lead. I have the big barrel and the big turret on it now... and the crew is at 96% of their first perk so I'm trying to get them to 100.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:08 PM   #4027
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:14 PM   #4028
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This is how my thinking for this game has evolved. There are three kinds of shots one can take: The sure shot, which you know will hit your target, the Hopeful shot, which has some doubt attached but you can afford the round and luck will often enough work out, and the Foolish shot, which you know will miss but you pull the trigger anyway, because that's just what you do in the fog of war and excitement of the moment.
This is huge with the T30 and the 155 gun. First few games you think you're Zeus with a handful of lightning bolts but quickly realize it will bounce when it shouldn't and lose accuracy at the most inopportune moments, then you have the reload time when everyone makes their move on you.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:16 PM   #4029
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Nice round!

It amazes me how often the Churchill III ends up with 1000+ and top of the heap.
When you look at its stats - the "wimpy" gun and the slow speeds.. you'd think it would be useless.

The other Day Getsome & I were running two together with Cat shooting an SU26 to back us up and we were completely dominating round after round.





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Old 12-25-2012, 05:38 PM   #4030
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It also amazes me how the Matilda Black Prince does as well as it does being very slow and only a medium, however that medium is half the size of a heavy, has just as many hit points, and reloads very quickly... I hate goin up against them with a tier 4, which is why I now own one.
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Old 12-25-2012, 05:43 PM   #4031
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finally had a super (for me)round in my T28 Proto

The T28Proto and I were bumper to bumper, I put two into his soft spot while he was firing willy nilly

. Took out the last 4 tanks 1 on 1, the 26E4 while in their cap to win the game. It's disconcerting to know ya only have a second once you see a tank to make a shot.
Finished the round with only an SU8 on my team while waiting in enemy cap.


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Old 12-25-2012, 07:48 PM   #4032
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I'm back to playing my three light tanks for a while. It's so much fun to go flying across the country side, instead of plodding.
I got my Luchs into a sideways skid through a desert courtyard while running for my life. I was too concerned with who was on my tail to really appreciate it at the time
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:00 PM   #4033
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I am looking at trying to go a light route somewhere, I am thinking american rather than french though as I have issues waiving the white flag to surrender.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:03 PM   #4034
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I am looking at trying to go a light route somewhere, I am thinking american rather than french though as I have issues waiving the white flag to surrender.
Don't dis the french tanks... they're the only ones that have 8 gears for reverse
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Don't dis the french tanks... they're the only ones that have 8 gears for reverse
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