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Old 02-21-2013, 03:48 AM   #5821
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...so it appears kills are valued more than damage by the XP counter.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:37 AM   #5822
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I will be back in 2014. And yes I am from and missing the good old USA.

Thanks for the insite. I tend to push so i will try hanging back and watching to see how the game unfolds.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:41 AM   #5823
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There are TD's that are better suited to be on the front line, the Hellcat is not one of them unless you know that you have very few enemies left, and they are not at full health, or you are in a position where you can see and hit them without them knowing where you are or being able to hit you. When I get the replay up, if you can play it, you should be able to see what I mean.

Edit: the above is true unless... you are part of a hellcat swarm, that can make a very effective blitzkrieg (I have been in one that was litterally only about 2 minutes from start to cap).

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:04 AM   #5824
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Edit: the above is true unless... you are part of a hellcat swarm, that can make a very effective blitzkrieg (I have been in one that was litterally only about 2 minutes from start to cap).
Hehehehe.....not that I would participate in anything like that.....no, not me......


Seriously, everything Big Bird has said above is right on. Use your speed to get out and scout, but not too far ahead of your heavies. With camo skill on your crew (and nets, and paint), the Hellcat is a very effective passive scout. It also has the advantage of speed and a good gun......when the opportunity presents itself, you can jump from your hide spot and really make a difference. The trick is to recognize those opportunities. How this tank is played is also very dependant on where it is in the tier stack. You can be a lot more agressive when you're top tier, not so much when you're bottom tier.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:14 AM   #5825
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I just realized... Probably most of the people on my team left the battle, as there was not much chatter in the chat that I saw, thinking it was a lost cause and went on to another tank/battle. If they were working on their times two's, they were probably shocked and / or disappointed at their xp recieved as I have been in the past. Maybe I earned some REP credits for FYYFF? I do have to say, it was the arty that made that battle, without him droping rounds on target and communicating with me it would have been a loss, no question.

Yes, I am kindof bored at work, as I am covering for a coworker who is out sick and I really do not feel like starting projects right now. I really wish I could play WOT at work...

I love pulling out a win just after the doubles or triples start when some members of the team just give up from the get-go (due to XVM showing a 'sure' loss or something) and they die without having done much... it's sticks it to them that I salvaged a WIN and they're x2 or x3 that they thought they'd get in an upcoming game was wasted.

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I made a grave error at work yesterday. It was about 7 PM, and I had a late client I was working with. He and his brother work a graveyard shift, and had not had sleep all day, so one of them went to Starbucks and brought us all coffee back.

Now I drink the marginal coffee at work, but it doesn't really do much to me throughout the day, and have avoided Starbucks for well over two years now just because - while I love good coffee - I am not about to pay that kind of money for it at the moment (a bit of a financial hardship for a while there)... so that shit was like crack cocaine, and I found myself ordering Ostrich-leather shoes off of Amazon at 3 AM last night after only getting on Amazon to look at the dish scrub-brush reviews.

That was after playing my other WoT account for too long - when none of the FF's were on TS at 1 AM.

Strange night.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:17 AM   #5826
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Replay from the outstanding Hellcat game last night:



Geek this one is at your request, my side of the difference two tanks can make in a battle with a third forgetting to load ammo.



and somewhere I have the hellcat's from hell swarm, but i did not rename it and it will take a while to find if I had to.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:26 AM   #5827
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Hellcat swarm on Highway.....on the opposing cap in about 3 minutes.

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Old 02-21-2013, 05:31 AM   #5828
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Now I drink the marginal coffee at work, but it doesn't really do much to me throughout the day, and have avoided Starbucks for well over two years now just because - while I love good coffee - I am not about to pay that kind of money for it at the moment
If you love good coffee, why are you going to Starbucks?

Sooooo......

Head up the SU line to the SU152 and beyond or do I go to the SU100M1? I don't see many SU100M1's in battles, but I do see plenty of 152's.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:40 AM   #5829
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Vent, rammer, and God save you if you don't run camo on a TD that gets a camo bonus (IMHO).


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Where are you getting the camo bonus info from? I googled it and came up with http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index....uflage-tables/

which appears to tell me that the T30 has the worst camoflage benefit of any American TD, and worse than almost any other nations TD as well. Maybe I'm reading it wrong



I think 2 crew members are stll a % or 2 away from full camo skill.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:17 AM   #5830
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Head up the SU line to the SU152 and beyond or do I go to the SU100M1? I don't see many SU100M1's in battles, but I do see plenty of 152's.
Do you want a fast shooting, lower damage gun (SU100M1), or do you want to shoot slow and hit big (when you hit)(SU-152)?
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:19 AM   #5831
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stellar round in the T30. 5000 damage. but a measly 1500xp??

I had the only 4 kills on the team at one point. Until I saw that I thought we were doing really well

oh, and to be fair, one of those was a 1 shot kill for 1400. ammo rack maybe?







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Old 02-21-2013, 07:31 AM   #5832
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If you love good coffee, why are you going to Starbucks?

Sooooo......

Head up the SU line to the SU152 and beyond or do I go to the SU100M1? I don't see many SU100M1's in battles, but I do see plenty of 152's.
I knew some coffee snob would pipe in about that.
I'll maintain that it is good coffee, and that coffee snobs are just coffee snobs. Starbucks easily beats anything else we have in the entire area for taste... and I'm not one of those pansy coffee drinkers who puts sugar, creamer, milk or what ever in my coffee to hide the flavor of the beans.

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Where are you getting the camo bonus info from? I googled it and came up with http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index....uflage-tables/

which appears to tell me that the T30 has the worst camoflage benefit of any American TD, and worse than almost any other nations TD as well. Maybe I'm reading it wrong
But it's still a TD camo bonus on a tank with a really weak hull. Staying back and using the camo, while keeping the tank in the game, makes sense to me. I can't claim to have the greatest win ratio with it, but I think I'm more effective when I'm not getting shot at in it. I usually never do this because it makes it seem like a player is using stats to say they're better, but in this case, for solely the T30, I'm running a 57% win ratio with it (247 battles). All I can think, unless you have an overall better battle theory you care to explain and that I'd understand, is that for my own personal skill level I'm doing about as good as I can do with it for now. I'd love some insight into anything I could do better, so if that means placing the tank elsewhere and not using its camo, then I'm open to suggestions as to what works better.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:36 AM   #5833
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stellar round in the T30. 5000 damage. but a measly 1500xp??

What's the black jagged line down the left side of your graphic above? It goes across the detailed report button at the bottom left???

5000 damage got you 1500xp?
I did 6000 yesterday and got 1347

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Old 02-21-2013, 07:37 AM   #5834
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Are we done with the camo lessons? I was looking forward to more of them.

This discussion with vwboomer has me wondering if WG has ever thought about programming to alter camo values based on how much of the tank could be seen?

Let's say that I really am hull-mother-fucking-down in some awesome hidey-hole, and only the turret of my T30 could be seen at all, but even it (with the rest of me) is behind some really nicely placed bush that boosts my camo.

It would seem to me that the part that could be exposed - just my turret - would be as small as some much smaller tanks in the game. It is, therefore, unfair if the camo value of my entire tier 9 tank stays the same when over half of it is hidden by terrain, and the other third is low and behind a bush.

I bet they haven't addressed this issue at all, but it should be in the game.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:39 AM   #5835
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What's the black jagged line down the left side of your graphic above? It goes across the detailed report button at the bottom left???

5000 damage got you 1500xp?
I did 6000 yesterday and got 1347

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....postcount=5808
I do that once in a while with my picture editor - if I accidentally try to box in a section of the screen, but instead the pencil or paint brush is on, I'll mark it up with dots or lines.

Usually I catch it, but in his case I probably would have missed the black line as well.
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