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Old 03-02-2014, 06:20 AM   #1
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One to Four horsepower offroad chariot build

I'm lucky to live in a spectacularly beautiful area of Virginia. The farms are stunning and the woods are plentiful. Its all very private property so traipsing around on a dirtbike is not an option. The landowners are, however, very welcoming to anybody riding a horse.

I'm a horseman and a offroad enthusiast so it might be fun to combine the two interests. I have a barn full of motors for power but no vehicles to hitch them to. Time to remedy that situation.

I could buy a factory built horse cart for cruising around the dirt roads here easily enough but i want to be able to fly through the woods on atv type trails. I think i need something with some suspension and i think a chariot configuration is going to be safer in the rough stuff.

A guy in England makes the Saddlechariot which looks like fun: these are one ponypower units but would work with a horse, too. These aren't sold in the USA, though and I think i might want more ground clearance and bigger wheels to roll over roots and ruts.





This is what the fields look like around here and that cart looks like fun. I think a chariot would be safer as far as being able to move around like a sidecar monkey to balance the ride. In the event of a highside, I'm thinking i can "step out the back" or otherwise survive better than those guys sitting in that cart.



Not very manly, I know, but there is a possibility of 4 horsepower on tap



Senori Marzocchi had not yet invented suspension:



I have a garage full of motorcycle spares; wheels, shocks, forks and swingarms. I think the suspension and wheels will be the the hardest part. Perhaps a swingarm or torque axle will allow for the tub to have the lowest center of gravity in comparison to using a solid axle setup. Bucho used a swingarm in his homebrew sidehack and I could build something like this with wheels on both sides, of course:



More food for thought: cutter racing rigs



I don't know how much travel i need but a horse cantering along goes about 400 meters per minute or 15 mph, which is similar to trailbike speed so maybe a dirtbike setup would work well. Any brainstorming ideas welcome
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:37 PM   #2
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If you don't need a lot of travel, these. Rubber in torsion at Norhern Tool $189 per set.
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Old 03-02-2014, 01:48 PM   #3
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Looks like fun! I rode horses for many years and quite enjoy the critters. I know nothing about building such things, but I'd be inclined to use fairly large diameter wheels and then keep the rest as light as possible. Seems like if you could bunny hop the thing a touch it'd be helpful. Maybe 26" downhill MTB wheels, 3" tires, and frame built with a similar approach as a mountain bike. Some suspension would probably be good, but the big wheels will help a lot with keeping things smooth.
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:13 PM   #5
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Old 03-13-2014, 04:43 AM   #6
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Here's what I want, it's King Tuts chariot. It looks really fast and modern. It's only about 3500 years old



http://news.discovery.com/history/an...riot-egypt.htm


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Old 03-17-2014, 05:06 PM   #7
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Would this give you a headstart?

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I thought you were going a different direction...

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Old 03-20-2014, 05:15 AM   #9
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Ha Ha, nice tips fellas. That yellow chariot looks like it has some suspension and tops out at 40 mph. A racing quarterhorse can hit 45 mph.

Here's more progress on a drawing at least:

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