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Old 02-01-2012, 12:50 PM   #16
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I have a spare Cabelas combo kit. I will have to look a the particulars, I know that a bunch of folks said it was a great starter kit. It has never touched the water. I bought two one for me and SO with the thought that we were going to CO for fly fishing, the trip never happened so they are taking up space in my garage.

If this half way interests you $25 to your door. I need to go verify which Cabelas kit is is, I know that it is a 4 piece rod with a reel.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #17
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I have a spare Cabelas combo kit. I will have to look a the particulars, I know that a bunch of folks said it was a great starter kit. It has never touched the water. I bought two one for me and SO with the thought that we were going to CO for fly fishing, the trip never happened so they are taking up space in my garage.

If this half way interests you $25 to your door. I need to go verify which Cabelas kit is is, I know that it is a 4 piece rod with a reel.
Now you tell us...

I might be interested Bob.
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:02 PM   #18
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I completely agree with everything Flashmo wrote. I have have many super fast action rods, Sage, T&T and a couple of years ago switched everything back to the slower action Winston rods that I now fish with. I had been over lining my fast action rods for a couple of years before I made the switch anyway. I will, however, still argue the rod, reel, line combo I pointed you to in my original post is the way to go. I have fished with the Cabelas rod and the Orvis 7 piece rod, and a T&T 7 piece they no longer make. The Cabelas lines are made by Cortland and are probably the very same 333 that is recommended. I suppose you could save a few bucks if you buy the travel rod, you can get a China made Pflueger at Walmart and cortland lines at Walmart as well... I still think the whole package, along with the purpose made case of the Cabelas rod is the way to go for motorcycle riding.

I searched for years for a short 6' 2wt bamboo rod for small, tree chocked streams.. I had a couple built for me, and finally the guys up at Sweegrass rods finally made me a hex that will actually "cast" a two weight line the 10-15' that I need... every rod up to that point needed to be overlined with at least a 4 wt to load at all for that type of fishing.. even the Sweetgrass rod would probably feel better throwing a 3wt.

edit: well crap.. hard to turn down $25 to your door for just about anything :)
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:05 PM   #19
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Yuup. I"m interested also. PM sent
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Old 02-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #20
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Hey MrT10x
Good info there! I'll checking Cabela's as there are two stores within 50 miles of me. Armed with knowledge presented here, I think I'll do fine. Never would have thought a $10 reel would be the way to go.
Heck there's still snow on the ground and now I'm excited to get back trout fishing
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:39 PM   #21
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Echo Trip Rod

I stopped in at Bob Marriott's today and they have a close out on an Echo 'Trip' rod - reg $279, now $127.95. If I had known I could get a new rod for that I would have done so. May still stop back and pick it up. 9' 5wt, 8 pc, comes with case, very nice.

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Old 02-01-2012, 05:25 PM   #22
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There is good advice on this thread and I cannot disagree. In general, a basic setup will serve just fine and save money.

However, know thyself!

I have been through many, many rods starting with basic. Today, I buy one of something that I do not think I will outgrow so I don't have duplicates hanging around I wont use. Rods, GPS devices, downhill skis, MC gear (helmets and other gear), camera gear, camping gear........this list goes on. Anymore I try to buy things once. Its not always true, but you generally do get something with cost.

The flyfishing industry has gone way overboard. I would not suggest one needs a 700$ rod, but, in my case I have a whole quiver of kit rods, rods I built for specific purposes, used rods I bought to save money, etc.. I have 9 6 weights but only really like 2. Creek rods, saltwater rods, wind/streamer rods........if I could do it again I could have saved a ton in the long run by buying 4-5 quality rods.

For trout, DO NOT spend much on a reel. The SciAnglers System 2 is great, Orvis Battinkill is hard to beat, some cheaper Ross. Something around 100$.

My motto anymore is just to buy the best I can at the time and realize the assumption may cost money.

(Oh, and shop the internet sales. There are tremendous deals to be had when gear changes over every year for the next great thing).
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Old 02-01-2012, 05:53 PM   #23
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browneye- Nice looking 1495 in the photo. I have a whole bag of those and use them all the time. They really are quite popular with bamboo rod enthusiast, due to their weight. In order to achieve a proper balance, bamboo rods require a heavier reel than a similar graphite (bamboo is heavier), that's why the USA made reels are always going for a premium in used sales. Usually you hear companies saying that you need to replace your fly line every "X" number of years...don't buy into it. If it is still stiff enough to turn a loop and has not started cracking then you should be fine (I've got a couple from '97 that I am still using and they are fine). If the plastic coating starts to crack, then it is done, especially on a floating line, since water will be able to saturate the core and cause it to sink.

Sanders- Grandpa started you out well, medium action is easy to cast, when you get one remember to "wait for it to load". Most any of us can explain that term...when you are ready for it.

MTDuke- I agree on buying the best you can, when you can, it's usually worth it in the long run. BTW, I think the sweet spot in fly rods of cost vs. value is usually in the $400 range. More than that, and you are usually just paying for a name. Less than that, and you are getting that company's older technology, not that that is always bad (for those that know what I am talking about...Gary Loomis is wrapping his new designs in IM6 and Moderate to Mod/Fast... he left Shimano who owns G.Loomis a couple years ago, and YOU cannot buy his rods).

FWIW...one of my favorite trout reels is an old South Bend "clicker" that I bought off e-bay for $5 plus shipping. Bought it just for the visual value for product shots, but now it is in the regular rotation.

I've got to tell you guys that I love Sage rods, especially an old RPL, but don't always like what they try to do with their marketing. They really changed things in the industry trying to get people to buy a new rod every year to "keep up with the Joneses" by touting the newest technology or faster, line rocketing tapers. Sound anything like the skiing industry? That's because the guys at Sage...came from K2. Just last year the super fast TCX was the king of the hill, now the less fast ONE is the new flagship.

edit: Sanders, if you can get your hands on that $25 Cabelas rig from Lonestar, do it. It's just like a motorcycle...you can't know what you really want, until you have something to tool around on and find out how you really want to use it. Use it for a while, then when the time is right, get what fits your needs based on experience.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:26 PM   #24
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Flashmo,

We think alike.

My favorite rod was (with tears) a 9'6" RPL 6. I bought it used as a student and fished the crap out of it. I broke it along with 3 other rods about 8 years ago right after getting my first drift boat. This led to one of my never break under any circumstances rules when fishing: always hand carry rods to the drift boat when launching. Hard lesson to be learned, I had 4 rods hanging out the back of the boat and the anchor on when I backed into the water.......the wheels dropped off the ledge and the anchor swung around the tips of the rods and snapped all of them. So now, carry rods, never put anchor on until boat is launched.

Interestingly, I have offered some humble advice to others when I see this happen and tell my own dreadful story and its seems to have no effect.........I see it all the time on the Bighorn, Madison, and Missouri.

Anyway, I digress. Sage is my flavor too. After the RPL I got an RPL+ to substitute and I still fish that rod. I have a couple of XPs I really like now as well. You might say I drank the cool aid, but, I do like the TCR fast action although I have been too cheap to buy one (I know, that was replaced). The wind on the Yellowstone and Missouri can be dreadful and that fast action if you can drive it is helpful.

My wife still fishes a slower action sage (cant remember which one). Her tailing loop with faster rods keeps me in the guide seat too much.

Damn, now I want to go fishing!

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MTDuke- I agree on buying the best you can, when you can, it's usually worth it in the long run. BTW, I think the sweet spot in fly rods of cost vs. value is usually in the $400 range. More than that, and you are usually just paying for a name. Less than that, and you are getting that company's older technology, not that that is always bad (for those that know what I am talking about...Gary Loomis is wrapping his new designs in IM6 and Moderate to Mod/Fast... he left Shimano who owns G.Loomis a couple years ago, and YOU cannot buy his rods).

FWIW...one of my favorite trout reels is an old South Bend "clicker" that I bought off e-bay for $5 plus shipping. Bought it just for the visual value for product shots, but now it is in the regular rotation.

I've got to tell you guys that I love Sage rods, especially an old RPL, but don't always like what they try to do with their marketing. They really changed things in the industry trying to get people to buy a new rod every year to "keep up with the Joneses" by touting the newest technology or faster, line rocketing tapers. Sound anything like the skiing industry? That's because the guys at Sage...came from K2. Just last year the super fast TCX was the king of the hill, now the less fast ONE is the new flagship.

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Old 02-01-2012, 08:12 PM   #25
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+1 on Temple Fork Rods.

I own a lot of these rods from the old Professional Series to the Finesse and BVK. All are real quality rods with the differences really being in the actions (fast, medium, etc) and line weight obviously. I have sold every Sage I have owned on eBay. TFO's customer service is awesome.

How people break a fly rod ranges from horrifying; a tip snap loosing a killer fish, to the hilarious; vacuum cleaners, ceiling fans, cats, car fires, now apparently motorcycle nuts. They don't care how it broke they want you happy and fishing again. You would be well served to check them out.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:15 PM   #26
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Sage Rods

Sage advice, eh?

They have always been my favorite too. My 5wt is a GL and I called Sage to find out if I could make it a 4 piece from a 2 and of course learned that the ferrules are machined into the blanks. Did not realize that.

In WA I had a 10' 8wt RPL and it would cast the whole 85' shooting head. Great rod for steelhead up there. Hooked a few 20 pounders but never landed one. Sold the rod a couple of years ago but I may still have the Lamson reel, I think it's a saltwater one.

Somebody should snap up that Echo, that's a steal deal. They are discontinued and there are a couple on ebay but they are closer to $200. Reported to be a very good budget rod, good medium action.

Of course the fly shop told me my flylines should be replaced every few years but some of the forums and how-to's explain stretching the line out, cleaning and treating it, and inspecting it for cracking. Good ol' 303 protectant works on them. I'll probably replace my floating line and checkout the sink-tip and sinking line spools and see if I can get by this year. They also said I should replace all my tippet spools and leaders - what do you all think?

I still have my float tube but haven't used it for more than 12 years. Probably needs a new innertube, it's an old style with a tire tube in it.

Anyhow, it's fun to discuss fishing gear on a motorcycle forum. I am actually thinking I may do some fishing trips by bike this spring in the sierras. What a fun combination of entertainment. Ride, hike, and fish.
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Old 02-01-2012, 08:23 PM   #27
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+1 on Temple Fork Rods.

TFO's customer service is awesome.

How people break a fly rod ranges from horrifying; a tip snap loosing a killer fish, to the hilarious; vacuum cleaners, ceiling fans, cats, car fires, now apparently motorcycle nuts. They don't care how it broke they want you happy and fishing again. You would be well served to check them out.
x10 on that!! I slammed my camper shell closed on my last one. They replaced the rod no questions asked.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:13 PM   #28
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...and now for some waders...

Thanks to Lonestar I've got a beginners #5 wt rig on its way. Thanks to the other inmates for some great info (next stop this weekend is to the library) I keep checking back here for more.

I even had a nice offer for some vintage equipment from an inmate, but I don't know what its worth, so I passed.

Browneye--that echo rod looks sweet, and I am very tempted. REI has a #5 wt Reddington knocked down from $180 to $71.00. Fast-action though :(
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:04 PM   #29
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...and now for some waders...

Thanks to Lonestar I've got a beginners #5 wt rig on its way. Thanks to the other inmates for some great info (next stop this weekend is to the library) I keep checking back here for more.

I even had a nice offer for some vintage equipment from an inmate, but I don't know what its worth, so I passed.

Browneye--that echo rod looks sweet, and I am very tempted. REI has a #5 wt Reddington knocked down from $180 to $71.00. Fast-action though :(
Damn, that's a bargain. This economy has sprung so many bargains out there it's mind boggling. I'm tempted to get one of them just because they're only $70. I can handle a fast action. Gee, what a deal.

Recommend stocking-foot waders and some boots. It's a more verstatile system. You can use the boots alone or the waders in a float tube. Seems they've gotten away from the neoprene ones. Gee, guess I've been away from this for a LONG time.
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:22 PM   #30
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Get real Sanders! Cabelas and their ilk are for KLR riders. You'll need an Orvis rod/reel/waders/stream booties/gizmo vest/hat/etc. to complement the BMW rider wear.

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