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Old 02-08-2012, 12:03 AM   #46
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You can go bigger than that, and stay close to 5k lbs. I just bought this:

28ft, slider, 5400 dry. Offers quite a bit that you don't get at 23ft, and is still WAY under what you want to tow.

http://www.cruiserrv.com/shadow-crui...s/gallery.html


Trailers have gotten quite a bit lighter over the last 10 years or so, relative to size.
Trailers have gotten lighter, however.......

Dry weight doesn't factor in many things like ac, awning, propane, battery etc. Then you add your weight distribution hitch, food, utensels, water in tanks, bedding, clothing, fishing gear, blocks of wood for levelling, bikes, lawn chairs, generator, beer, couple kids etc. You can easily be towing over 7k.
Not only would you be closing in on the max of some 1/2 tons, but also nearing the gvwr of the trailer.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:47 AM   #47
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I am going to buy a Load Leveling Hitch or what ever is the latest and greatest when I buy a TT. Like I said I never owned a TT so the hitch will be new to me. The Prodigy 2 seems like a good unit to go with and Im glad to hear its plug and play with a few adjustments.
Thanks for all the input. I havent led a sheltered life. I have experiance dragging stuff around on trailers more than I care to comment on. Thats why Im pretty well decided on staying below 5K on weight and 22-23 on length. When things go wrong it happens fast on the road. And I really dont want a big TT. Just something small to pull behind my 1/2 ton 4x4 with factory tow package. I use my truck alot more for other stuff than towing a TT.
I guess the best question I could have asked is not which to buy but which brands to stay away from?
There are just so many to choose from. I wanted to try and weed out some of them. Unless I just pick out a real Lemon I will probably keep this thing awhile.

How do you know if they are rated 4 season's ? Are certain brands all 4 seasons?
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:11 AM   #48
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As soon as we drove off the lot, in Seattle, we noticed people flipping us off. Its been keyed twice. I've learned to check for the screws and nails that oddly appear propped under the tiers in parking lots. Yep.The only problem we had with the RV life was from buying a rig that was not PC enough for the brain dead, green zealots populating our country.
I don't usually get too genuinely angry about stuff these days, but hearing this kind of thing will do it.

Bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:16 AM   #49
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In Alaska, we saw a diesel pusher, at least a 40'+ super RV. Behind it, a bright yellow H2. I always figured the Hummer was a backup tow vehicle for their RV.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:51 AM   #50
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How do you know if they are rated 4 season's ? Are certain brands all 4 seasons?
Not sue if any rv is really 4 season. Certain brands will have options of an insulated floor and heating around tanks that would certainly make it a full 3 season.

Forest River , Keystone, and Jayco are popular, good brands. FR will have several different names under them like Rockwood, Flagstaff, wildwood etc with various level of quality. Same for Keystone with Outback, Bullet, Cougar, Springdale etc. Jayco just makes Jayco.

Each manufacture will have a few in your size with a few different floor plans, will only a few models having the warmer floors.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:58 AM   #51
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I am going to buy a Load Leveling Hitch or what ever is the latest and greatest when I buy a TT. Like I said I never owned a TT so the hitch will be new to me. The Prodigy 2 seems like a good unit to go with and Im glad to hear its plug and play with a few adjustments.
Thanks for all the input. I havent led a sheltered life. I have experiance dragging stuff around on trailers more than I care to comment on. Thats why Im pretty well decided on staying below 5K on weight and 22-23 on length. When things go wrong it happens fast on the road. And I really dont want a big TT. Just something small to pull behind my 1/2 ton 4x4 with factory tow package. I use my truck alot more for other stuff than towing a TT.
I guess the best question I could have asked is not which to buy but which brands to stay away from?
There are just so many to choose from. I wanted to try and weed out some of them. Unless I just pick out a real Lemon I will probably keep this thing awhile.

How do you know if they are rated 4 season's ? Are certain brands all 4 seasons?
For around $20 more, I'd go with the latest tech and get the Prodigy P3, it the newest and it allows the user to switch between Electric and Electric Over Hydraulic brakes. The Arctic Fox line is considered a 4 season TT. For example, the entire bottom is sealed and the heating ducts in the floor run around the holding tanks to keep them from freezing.

Bottom line, check insulation R values in specs and evaluate brands.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:21 PM   #52
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Trailers have gotten lighter, however.......

Dry weight doesn't factor in many things like ac, awning, propane, battery etc. Then you add your weight distribution hitch, food, utensels, water in tanks, bedding, clothing, fishing gear, blocks of wood for levelling, bikes, lawn chairs, generator, beer, couple kids etc. You can easily be towing over 7k.
Not only would you be closing in on the max of some 1/2 tons, but also nearing the gvwr of the trailer.
right, that dry weight doesn't include many things. But when comparing trailer to trailer, dry weight is apples to apples.

Point being, you can get a 28 footer for the weight of a 24 footer 10-15 years ago.

Assuming you dont tow with full water and grey tanks, and dont have the thing jam packed, will be under 7k. Most trailers in that range have a GVWR of approx 7500lbs, so unless you are overloading the trailer, you are well within range of most modern half-tons.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:20 AM   #53
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right, that dry weight doesn't include many things. But when comparing trailer to trailer, dry weight is apples to apples.

Point being, you can get a 28 footer for the weight of a 24 footer 10-15 years ago.

Assuming you dont tow with full water and grey tanks, and dont have the thing jam packed, will be under 7k. Most trailers in that range have a GVWR of approx 7500lbs, so unless you are overloading the trailer, you are well within range of most modern half-tons.
Just to add...and under the hitch weight. My AF has a GVWR of 7500, and a hitch weight of 595lbs. The hitch weight of a 5th wheel is why only the smallest of them can be safely towed by a 1/2 T truck.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:43 AM   #54
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This is a "pop out" so it should be able to be here

Anyone know anything about '07 Starcraft 21



It has 2 pull out queen beds



Looks new. Has a "slide out dinette and couch"



One owner. Always in a carport. He says very lightly used and looks new. I think I can get it for 8k'ish
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:04 PM   #55
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I'm doing the below bike race (Cheaha Challenge-highest point in Alabama) and want something to camp in for training rides for me and my buddies.

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Old 10-15-2012, 02:42 PM   #56
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Ken,

Check the condition of the trailer around that large front hatch. Those hybrid trailers sometimes have funky seals and water can intrude along that large piece of wood, especially at 65mph. Look for delamination or water stains. Water in the walls is bad

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Old 10-15-2012, 03:02 PM   #57
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This is a "pop out" so it should be able to be here

Anyone know anything about '07 Starcraft 21



It has 2 pull out queen beds



Looks new. Has a "slide out dinette and couch"



One owner. Always in a carport. He says very lightly used and looks new. I think I can get it for 8k'ish
That's not a little light camper....that's a small house!
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:37 PM   #58
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Looks new. Has a "slide out dinette and couch"



One owner. Always in a carport. He says very lightly used and looks new. I think I can get it for 8k'ish
Nice unit. I rented on similar to that about 5 years ago, but without the slide. Very livable. Was even able to tow it with a V6 Explorer.

Be sure to fold the tent ends down. If they were packed up even damp, that vinyl gets moldy fast.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:53 PM   #59
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Check the condition of the trailer around that large front hatch. Those hybrid trailers sometimes have funky seals and water can intrude along that large piece of wood, especially at 65mph. Look for delamination or water stains. Water in the walls is bad

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Thanks! Those tent pop outs kinda scare me

This toy shopping started with the idea of a little "pop up" for under 5k. Then you start looking and researching and there are some really REALLY cool trailers out there. I am so screwed
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Be sure to fold the tent ends down. If they were packed up even damp, that vinyl gets moldy fast.

And I live in Alabama where it can rain for 2-3 weeks at a time. Hard to dry out. I may keep looking for one without the tents.
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