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Old 02-08-2012, 03:26 PM   #46
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:41 PM   #47
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No affiliation, but one of my customers bought these:



They look absolutely normal without any extra seams, come with knee armor and kevlar. Every other kevlar pant that I have seen looked like one - not good if you are trying to stay low key.

I personally used a set of Draggin jeans before - way too hot, still look dorky and provide minimal protection increase. From now on it's proper riding pants for me, unless I'm on 250cc beast riding in town. In this case I will wear Dainese Yamato pants - great look and knee armor.

By the way here is another great alternative. Another one of my customers got them, I could not even tell they are leather. Big bucks though.

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Old 02-08-2012, 05:52 PM   #48
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The Draggin jeans are rather warm ~ for walking around in the sun on a hot day . . . but no problem when riding.

No complaints about the Kevlar strength. After high-siding onto a gravel road at 70 Kph [45 mph], the surface denim on my knees was a bit chewed up . . . but the underlying yellow cloth looked pretty much unmarked.

The jeans were a loose-fit style in the legs, so there was room underneath for knee/shin strap-on guards (which go on & off quickly "from below" . . . and the pants help hold them in place too, so the guard straps needn't be uncomfortably tight . . . yet they're moderately comfortable to walk around in, without bothering to remove the guards).
End result . . . just a slight bruise on one kneecap.

The one deficiency is the [lack of] hip padding. Even a bit would reduce chances of a broken hip . . . but I don't see much likelihood of manufacturers bringing in unfashionably Michelin-Man-hipped jodhpur style to their range of jeans.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:30 PM   #49
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:00 PM   #50
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This thread has been educational for me, the "riding jeans" I looked at were just that, jeans with a few reinforced areas. I see now that there are "riding jeans" that are just that, and there are riding jeans that are much closer to real riding pants styled to look like jeans. Big difference IMO.

I do still think a $100 for jeans with a few Kevlar patches is a waste if you are purchasing pants for protection.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:17 PM   #51
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I do still think a $100 for jeans with a few Kevlar patches is a waste if you are purchasing pants for protection.

Not sure of your size but clearance prices are a good thing.



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Old 02-09-2012, 12:47 AM   #52
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I wear an local Oz made Kevlar lined jeans (NEDS). I had no preference between this brand or other name brands when I was buying ... they were on special No hotter than my mesh overpants and as someone else mentioned you can wet them down if it's mega hot. I also have Kevlar lined leather pants but they aren't getting worn much lately .... they seem to have shrunk

The Kevlar lining in these jeans is tough as and most brands seem well made and ours have survived a great many launderings. They are very good value for money if compared to regular jeans.

I think I remember reading somewhere on ADV a post saying that tear resistance was related to layers of fabric. The single Kevlar layer probably reduces the number of layers required to provide a reasonable tear resistance.

The idea of using strap on knee guards is a good'un if one felt the need ...
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:56 AM   #53
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Some of you guys sound like strictly touring riders. That's ok. But these products aren't for you. These jeans are for people who use their bike for transportation on a daily basis and don't want to like like a goofball and walk around in tons of thick layers.
I am a big fan of:
a) Using the bike as a utility device; it needs to commute, it needs to go to the shops, it needs to do short trips as well as for fun rides
b) bike luggage!

If I'm going into town, I wear armor/kevlar overpants and jacket over normal clothes. When I get off the bike, the bike gear goes in the bike luggage and if you looked at me, you wouldn't know I arrived on a motorcycle.

I've got kevlar jeans too.... sometimes I wear them, but I find them a bit less comfortable than normal jeans plus they are expensive so I think wearing them off the bike is a bit of a compromise too. And they don't have armor.
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:35 AM   #54
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I have had some Draggin jeans for several years. They do offer better protection than regular jeans but......
Without armor underneath I still consider them lacking compared to real riding pants. They are hotter than regular jeans due to the extra kevlar layer and the fact that they are heavy duty jeans. The kevlar makes them less comfortable unless you wear an extra layer, such as long johns underneath. In hot weather they are hotter than regular jeans and much hotter than mesh pants.
I found the same thing. I got rid of mine and bought some BMW City 2 denim pants which CE padding. Not quite as "stylish" looking as the Draggin jeans, but also not nearly as hot and have better protection, while still maintaining a pretty decent look.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:19 AM   #55
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:54 AM   #56
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I found the same thing. I got rid of mine and bought some BMW City 2 denim pants which CE padding. Not quite as "stylish" looking as the Draggin jeans, but also not nearly as hot and have better protection, while still maintaining a pretty decent look.
my leather pants and my dragging jeans are good in a slid but they both have no armored in them.
padded jeans will not be any good in a slid..
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:27 AM   #57
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....I do still think a $100 for jeans with a few Kevlar patches is a waste if you are purchasing pants for protection.
That depends on the amount of protection you are looking for on a given ride. Low speed rides around town aren't going to result in MotoGP style 1/4 mile slides. My sub-highway speed crashes are usually more tumble than slide. Which is why armor is more important to me than leather for most of my dual sport riding.

But I agree about the prices. That is why I am a dedicated closeout shopper. My Cortech pants were $40 on sale from motorcyclegear.com (was NewEnough.com)
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:35 AM   #58
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That depends on the amount of protection you are looking for on a given ride. Low speed rides around town aren't going to result in MotoGP style 1/4 mile slides. My sub-highway speed crashes are usually more tumble than slide. Which is why armor is more important to me than leather for most of my dual sport riding.

But I agree about the prices. That is why I am a dedicated closeout shopper. My Cortech pants were $40 on sale from motorcyclegear.com (was NewEnough.com)
As my only functional bike is my Ural, there is very little chance of a slide.
I did have a low speed get-off while attempting to fly the chair in reverse, and there was no sliding involved.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:36 AM   #59
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But I agree about the prices. That is why I am a dedicated closeout shopper. My Cortech pants were $40 on sale from motorcyclegear.com (was NewEnough.com)

I've bought lots of "last year's" gear at good discounts. If you don't need to have the latest thing it is a great way to save some bucks.
Great vendor too. I buy most of my stuff from them.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:43 AM   #60
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I bought a very nice three season textile jacket and a nice mesh jacket there. I doubt the two jackets together cost much more than $100. Apparently orange was not a very popular color for street bike riders.

I think a Yamaha blue offroad helmet or Honda red street helmet go nicely with KTM orange jackets. An ensemble it is not.
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