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Old 02-15-2012, 01:41 PM   #31
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Is it too early in the thread to start asking about value on a near perfect, mid-90's 4" .357 K Frame? What info do I need to bring to the table to get a roundabout figure? Buddy has one he is selling and isn't sure where to price it and I would like to own it. (I also know squat about revolvers, so if noting K Frame and .357 in the description is redundant, please forgive me. )


d'oh, should have read otto's post.
I'm assuming it's a Model 66 although I suppose it could be a 65. Do you know which? 66 has adjustable sights, 65 has a fixed sight where the top-strap has a notch cut directly into it which serves as the rear sight. A 4" is the most common, but also quite possibly the mose useful, of the 66s. In nearly new condition I'd guess it to be worth $450-475. Nice thing about a mid-90s is that it doesn't have the hated internal-lock, no MIM parts, and no goofy two-piece barrel, so that makes them more attractive to most Smith & Wesson fanatics.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:43 PM   #32
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I'm assuming it's a Model 66 although I suppose it could be a 65. Do you know which? 66 has adjustable sights, 65 has a fixed sight where the top-strap has a notch cut directly into it which serves as the rear sight. A 4" is the most common, but also quite possibly the mose useful, of the 66s. In nearly new condition I'd guess it to be worth $450-475. Nice thing about a mid-90s is that it doesn't have the hated internal-lock, no MIM parts, and no goofy two-piece barrel, so that makes them more attractive to most Smith & Wesson fanatics.
Could also be a model 19 or a model 13.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:48 PM   #33
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Could also be a model 19 or a model 13.
True, good catch. Nico, the 65 and 66 are stainless, the 13 & 19 are generally blue although some were made with a nickel finish.

I have a nickel 2.5" 19, with a story behind it, but I told that on another thread not that long ago so will wait until a related topic comes up in this one before I re-launch into it.....complete with pics!
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:10 PM   #34
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The model number and iteration should be stamped behind the crane (ie 66-3, model 66, 3rd iteration), that would tell more about the value.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:21 PM   #35
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I picked up this ubiquitous Military & Police last summer from a guy on our local forum for $275. I had a minor accident on the way there (in my truck since it was raining), but I persevered and met the guy a little later. He said it was his grandfathers gun and had just been laying around. I said "are you sure you want to sell your grandfathers gun?" He said "yeah, I need some parts for my AR". Kids these days. Anyway it's a sweet shooting piece with typical Smith trigger. The serial number puts the shipping date around 1950 (I may spring for a S&W letter since I was also shipped that year). Even got the ammo he took out of it (Westernfield)



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Old 02-15-2012, 03:27 PM   #36
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I picked up this ubiquitous Military & Police last summer from a guy on our local forum for $275. I had a minor accident on the way there (in my truck since it was raining), but I persevered and met the guy a little later. He said it was his grandfathers gun and had just been laying around. I said "are you sure you want to sell your grandfathers gun?" He said "yeah, I need some parts for my AR". Kids these days. Anyway it's a sweet shooting piece with typical Smith trigger. The serial number puts the shipping date around 1950 (I may spring for a S&W letter since I was also shipped that year). Even got the ammo he took out of it (Westernfield).
Kinda makes me sick to think that some kid would sell his grandfather's gun to get a few AR parts.....I predict that when he's closer to our vintage he'll regret that decision. But his loss is your gain. Neat old gun.

My shipping date was September of 1949, so we're close to the same vintage!
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:33 PM   #37
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Sweet 63! I'd love to have one. I agree with you about the rubber. I hate Goodyears on my beautiful S&Ws. Having said that, I'm grateful for the ones on the two 500s. Those are special grips made for that caliber and have some of that squishy sorbothane stuff covering the backstrap. I'd love to put nice picturesque wooden grips on those two guns, but think the added hand-smack would be unpleasant, so guess I'll stick with the Goodyears.....but just on those two!
I keep the Goodyears on my 442 for that reason.
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Old 02-15-2012, 04:50 PM   #38
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Is it too early in the thread to start asking about value on a near perfect, mid-90's 4" .357 K Frame? What info do I need to bring to the table to get a roundabout figure? Buddy has one he is selling and isn't sure where to price it and I would like to own it. (I also know squat about revolvers, so if noting K Frame and .357 in the description is redundant, please forgive me. )


d'oh, should have read otto's post.
As noted, K-frame and .357 is NOT redundant. That said, is the gun in question blue, nickle, or stainless? That might make a little difference in the value. Also, you really should get someone who knows S&W revolvers to check it for wear.

The problem with a K-frame .357 (which IMHO, is just about the best DA revolver out there) is that they were made to be the right size to be carried all day and still handle the power of full .357 magnum loads. It was intended back when they were first issued that you would practice with .38 Specials. A K-frame that has had a lot of heavy loads shot through it can get a bit loose. This can be corrected, but needs to be factored in when you are haggling price.

The other factors that influence price are variations in sights (e.g. red ramp front, white outline rear, plain ramp and no white outline); narrow, smooth combat, or target trigger; and narrow or target hammer. Also what stocks does it have? None of these would be a deal breaker, but the more facy options may be worth a bit more $$$.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:37 PM   #39
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I've posted these in the other thread also but if I didn't post something in a new gun thread on adv it just would not feel right.

I got traded for this model 19 a few months ago It has a link to my past so it turned out to be a good deal for me. I guess I have about $350.00 in trade for it but would have went up a bit It is a fine shooter.




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I'd like to find a nice 4 inch model 19. The reason is that it's essentially a .357 version of a model 15 Combat Masterpiece in .38 special, one of which I have, along with a model 18, the same thing in .22.
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:52 PM   #41
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As noted, K-frame and .357 is NOT redundant. That said, is the gun in question blue, nickle, or stainless? That might make a little difference in the value. Also, you really should get someone who knows S&W revolvers to check it for wear.

The problem with a K-frame .357 (which IMHO, is just about the best DA revolver out there) is that they were made to be the right size to be carried all day and still handle the power of full .357 magnum loads. It was intended back when they were first issued that you would practice with .38 Specials. A K-frame that has had a lot of heavy loads shot through it can get a bit loose. This can be corrected, but needs to be factored in when you are haggling price.

The other factors that influence price are variations in sights (e.g. red ramp front, white outline rear, plain ramp and no white outline); narrow, smooth combat, or target trigger; and narrow or target hammer. Also what stocks does it have? None of these would be a deal breaker, but the more facy options may be worth a bit more $$$.
Looks like I have a few questions to ask. I knew as much anyway.

Thanks guys. Will get back with you when I have answers. FWIW, he did mention it is stainless. I do recall the red ramp front. I also know he does have the original grips as well as a set of rubber grips as he said the stock were brutal on his hands. (He's a mechanic, doesn't exactly have supple hands, so I'll take his word on this.)
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:55 PM   #42
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That's a great 65 3" Fat Chance. Seems like 3" K's are in quite a bit of demand these days. The advantage they have over the 2.5" is that the ejector-rod is full length, whereas on the shorter gun they have to use a shorter ejector-rod, making rapid reloads a little more iffy. And not as many of them were made, at least in the 66.....I cannot say about the 65.

Well, I guess I posted my first two revolvers, so now I'll post my most recent acquisition. I posted a pic of my girlfriend shooting this one just last weekend in the other thread. I'm away from home at the moment, but snapped a couple of pics of my new-to-me 66-1 2.5" on the hotel room table. Forgive the shitty lighting. This gun is a pinned and recessed 1980 vintage revolver. I doubt that it had ever been fired, or at least not very much. It's an awesome handgun, smoothe double-action trigger and a very crisp SA pull. I suspect it'll become my carry gun (when I do carry which is nowhere close to all the time), and also a primo field gun. I'm amazed at how well it shoots accuracy-wise, despite being a snub.

This isn't the first 66 I've owned. I had a 2.5" but a later (not P&R) gun that I bought in the mid-80s, but ended up selling to my former MIL. I don't know whatever became of that one, when she died and my ex and her brother went through her things they found some guns but not that one. I have been looking for another one in either 2.5" or 3", but the 3" 66s have gotten pretty expensive with nice ones selling close to a grand.





Edit: The grips on this gun are not the originals. They are some very nice aftermarket so-called "boot grips" and I really like them. I do have the originals grips (or "stocks" as died-in-the-wool S&W collectors call them) as well as the box, safely tucked away in storage, however.

FatChance, note the shorter ejector rod when compared to your 3" 65.
If I could own a pistol in NYC, this would be a tempting prospect. Beautiful K frame...
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Looks like I have a few questions to ask. I knew as much anyway.

Thanks guys. Will get back with you when I have answers. FWIW, he did mention it is stainless. I do recall the red ramp front. I also know he does have the original grips as well as a set of rubber grips as he said the stock were brutal on his hands. (He's a mechanic, doesn't exactly have supple hands, so I'll take his word on this.)
If it's a stainless K with a red ramp, it is almost certainly a 66.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:34 PM   #44
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Here is another one of my wheelguns a little different.

How is that Circuit Judge to shoot? I shot somebody's regular Judge a few weekends ago, and it didn't do much for me, but I find these more interesting.
It's a smoothbore barrel in this country, right? How does .45 LC shoot from that?
Could you shoot sporting clays and such with this, or aren't the sights well-suited to that?
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