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Old 07-09-2013, 08:15 AM   #196
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Quote "I finally have access to a god internet connection. Here are the pics I was supposed to upload before AdventureDays."

Where did you find a God internet connection? Does He reply?


Looking good kajj.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:06 AM   #197
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Quote "I finally have access to a god internet connection. Here are the pics I was supposed to upload before AdventureDays."

Where did you find a God internet connection? Does He reply?


Looking good kajj.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:17 PM   #198
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High front fender mod

I have been wanting to try out a high fender for a while. So today was the day

Sourced a ktm 690 enduro fender in white at my local dealership.
And it fits nicely. Only thing is the versys do not have any threads to bolt the fender to.
So i had to improvise and use some hose clamps to tighten it to the lower triple.
The result turned out good and I kinda like it.

What do you guys think? High or low?

If I am staying with the high fender I might drill some holes in the rear side to let more air pass through to the radiator.

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Old 07-13-2013, 11:31 PM   #199
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Either looks good but I prefer high mounts. I have the KTM fender on my dr 350 and it likes to flap at highway speeds.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:37 AM   #200
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Either looks good but I prefer high mounts. I have the KTM fender on my dr 350 and it likes to flap at highway speeds.
Ok. Good to know. I will try it out today and see how stable it is.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:09 AM   #201
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I liked the look of the low fender on yours.

I used a super motard style high fender on mine, cheap & easy but it won't offer much protection.



but a low fender does a better job in everything except mud. I have had to stop & remove the low fender on my 990 once the front wheel locked up.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:51 AM   #202
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Like the high, guess you could fit a mudguard brace if it flaps too much
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:51 AM   #203
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4play, whats the wheels and forks from?

Oh and is yours the one that was originally an ER6F rather than a versys....
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:04 AM   #204
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4play, whats the wheels and forks from?

Oh and is yours the one that was originally an ER6F rather than a versys....
It's all KTM stuff, 640 adventure cush hub rear wheel. The build is here
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=654184
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:29 AM   #205
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there are many aspects to fender considerations, design, function, and use, for instance.

for travel and general use on this specific bike, low fender, without question, and i'm not confining "travel" to paved surfaces.



maybe not in Sweden, but riding season temps in the States can hit the triple digits anywhere, and these motors need all the cooling they can get through that transverse mounted radiator, especially the smaller ER6 version from the early model years. blocking the radiator with a high fender, or the mud that gets past it, will light up the temp warning indicator, usually at the worst possible time. these bikes get ridden at speed, so it's worth mentioning the mud that also covers the rest of the bike, and your gear.

some designers, most notoriously at BMW, chose to add an element on their models, mainly dual sports, that did not have a big wrap around fairing. the objective was to reduce the visual gap between a low fender and the headlight assembly, eliminating the stork leg appearance of a long travel suspension. the gap can be reduced in several different ways, but usually it is accomplished by incorporating some configuration of beak.

a high fender does provide some visual balance, but with a big down side.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:09 AM   #206
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Thanks for the input regarding the high fender.

Did a real test run today. Highway at about 110km/h and the fender was stable, no flapping.
Crossing a bridge with pretty high side winds. The bike moved a bit sideways as usual,
bit there was no extra pull in the front or handlebars.
Also a lot of gravel in varying sizes. I was concerned about the front wheel throwing up rocks as you can usually hear
they hit the low fender. But the 690 fender seems to do a good job keeping the rocks down.
Mud, hmm mud. Was searching for that as wee have had quite a lot of rain the last couple of days.
All I could find were a few puddles, but I think I rode through all of them

I also rode some slow singletracks. First gear at about 10-15km/h. The fan did start a few times.
but only for a short period of time. But then agian it was not that hot today. Only about 23 degrees celcius.

I will need to try it out some more on the gravel as soon as it starts raining agian to see how well it protecs me and the bike from water and mud.
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:19 AM   #207
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I will need to try it out some more on the gravel as soon as it starts raining agian to see how well it protecs me and the bike from water and mud.

dig out those comparison photos from Walter Colebach's last ride report, he gets the low/high fender question all the time.

of the 4 bikes on that extended trip, two had high, two had low. the results in the photos don't need any additional explanation.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:07 PM   #208
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dig out those comparison photos from Walter Colebach's last ride report, he gets the low/high fender question all the time.

of the 4 bikes on that extended trip, two had high, two had low. the results in the photos don't need any additional explanation.
I have seen them before. One of the two high fenders seems to be a super moto style high fender, and is pretty short.
The other one if I remember correctly is not angled down at the front (that much).
So they do not offer optimized protection seen from a high fender perspective.

I think with the "right style" high fender with enough cover up front would have shown a better result.
But then again that is how I see things. And thats why I now am in the proces of testing the high fender from the 690 as it
seems to have a wide nose.

But I see your point. The low fender will offer better protection, coling etc. But I am willing to try a few things and see how they work for me.

Your thoughts are allways welcome thou
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:16 AM   #209
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High or low

Looking att the first picture now when the high fender is mounted, the low might have looked better
And of course with the benefits it should be the obvious choise.
Another question is, would then a ktm 990 adventure low fender look even better?
Dammit, I can not stop changing things back and forth on this bike. At least it is fun





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Old 07-22-2013, 08:29 AM   #210
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Well I guess the obvious choise for me would be to use both depending on where I am riding.
Use the high for when I know that I will encounter mud.
And use the low for longer travel when I will need better protection from water etc.

They are easy to swapp. takes only about 10 minutes.
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