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Old 03-02-2012, 10:11 AM   #1
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Why is nobody making a good diesel touring bike?

Diesel fuel is so much more easily available in remote places, as it's used to power generators, tractors, trucks, etc. that traveling in remote places would be so much easier. It seems to me that with current diesel engine technology a motorcycle engine should not be any problem to build within acceptable weight/power ranges.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:20 AM   #2
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Well there is this one. http://www.dieselmotorfiets.nl/
Not sure if is any good though and is pretty pricey. Uses the small diesel engine from a Smart car.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:05 AM   #3
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Well there is this one. http://www.dieselmotorfiets.nl/
Not sure if is any good though and is pretty pricey. Uses the small diesel engine from a Smart car.
Looks pretty awesome



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Old 03-02-2012, 12:15 PM   #4
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I am going to say it is because diesel would add significantly to the price of a bike, and would not increase performance, other the mileage/range. Bikes are actually pretty inexpensive, but diesel would add a couple of thousand dollars to the price. I bet that the marketing research just does not support there being a large enough market.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:31 PM   #5
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http://dieselmotorcycles.com/
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:42 PM   #6
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Looks pretty awesome



+1. That fairing looks perfect. Not to big and not too small. And 80MPG on the slab would be very cool. g-
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:17 PM   #7
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Not as good a performance as I would hope. 50HP and 74 ft lbs of torque. 50 mpg? HELL an old Airhead can do that
And $20,000 US
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:33 PM   #8
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Engine certification is expensive.

The big problem is getting an engine certified to sell in the US. Even if an engine is already certified in another vehicle, the US requires recertification. Economics don't justify building and certifying a diesel anything. How many could you sell? If it is less than 100,000 a year the manufacturer will lose money. Honda and Yamaha already have dealer networks in place and still have to sell about 50,000 a year of any particular model to break even. That's why many bikes are sold in Europe and Asia and never make it to the US.

The only manufacturers that certify Diesel engines for the US for cars are Daimler and VW. Almost everyone makes and sells diesel engines for the rest of the world but not for the US market. Daimler and VW never make up the cost difference with a Diesel. Some folks say eliminating all diesels in the world would eliminate the Global warming and pollution problems.

Here is some interesting reading about diesel cars: http://www.practicalenvironmentalist...iesel-cars.htm
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:48 PM   #9
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Diesel or not, that bike kind of turns me on!!!
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:56 PM   #10
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The big problem is getting an engine certified to sell in the US. Even if an engine is already certified in another vehicle, the US requires recertification. Economics don't justify building and certifying a diesel anything. How many could you sell? If it is less than 100,000 a year the manufacturer will lose money. Honda and Yamaha already have dealer networks in place and still have to sell about 50,000 a year of any particular model to break even. That's why many bikes are sold in Europe and Asia and never make it to the US.

The only manufacturers that certify Diesel engines for the US for cars are Daimler and VW. Almost everyone makes and sells diesel engines for the rest of the world but not for the US market. Daimler and VW never make up the cost difference with a Diesel. Some folks say eliminating all diesels in the world would eliminate the Global warming and pollution problems.

Here is some interesting reading about diesel cars: http://www.practicalenvironmentalist...iesel-cars.htm
BMW makes diesels for the US market too.


If you import it as a kit, you don't have to certify the engine.


I want one. Too bad I can't afford one.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:58 PM   #11
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Looks pretty awesome



Man! Would you look at the angle on that drive shaft housing?! That thing must have WAY tougher u-joints than a beemer. That poundin' diesel hammerin' those u-joints with that much angle on them would be brutal. Maybe they're using some kind of CV joints or something. I also noticed that the motor has a little turbo on it. Pretty cool, actually.

And where's the tranny? I see what looks like a gigantic clutch housing that hooks to the drive shaft. Is it some kind of continuously-variable unit like a snowmobile? It has a big ass spring on the rear shock too. Looks like it could take on pretty much anything.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:02 PM   #12
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Some folks say eliminating all diesels in the world would eliminate the Global warming and pollution problems.
Drunk and/or high folks right?
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:09 PM   #13
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Drunk and/or high folks right?
Total BS.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:23 PM   #14
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How about a diesel KLR 20% over MSRP , or one for about $4000:


http://www.dieselbike.net/commercial...prototypes.htm

The one above is an Indian made 2011 Altius Scimitar.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:01 PM   #15
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Are diesels considered "Oil Heads"?
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