2013 Ford Fusion - Page 11

NikonsAndVStroms · 01-17-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jdiaz

It wouldn't surprise me if the designers focused on making the MyFordTouch solution beautiful, and just slapped the less expensive Sync solution in as an afterthought for rental car markets and us manual tranny drivers.

That's what it seems like for most of them, you can't get the top end displays on the Accord with a manual. Instead you get a ton of buttons much bigger than they need to be to fill that space:

Though it is still an improvement over the last Accord:

Grainbelt · 01-17-2013, 11:58 AM

I still want a Volvo C30 just to play with the floating dashboard.

CA_Strom · 05-02-2013, 10:49 AM

I picked up my new 2013 Fusion SE yesterday, and wow what an improvement over the 2011 Fusion I turned in (company cars)! The 2013 is 100x better in every way over the old model. After 70k nearly trouble free miles on my 2011, it was nice, but also felt cheap and noisy.

The 2013 rides and drives like a European import (as it should). My 2011 had the base 2.5L 4 cyl, and it really had to work to get you up to speed. The 2013 I got has the 1.6L 4 cyl. "Ecoboost" turbo engine and it's very powerful and smooth. The interior on the 2013 is light years ahead of the old model, and even my somewhat stripped SE model has a ton of features. I picked white exterior with the dark sand interior. With a black dash and carpets, the light interior looks really good. The new Fusion design really turns heads, whereas my 2011 looked like a generic "company car".

Only 100 miles on the new ride so far, so we'll see how this plays out. So far the feedback from our fleet of a few hundred new Fusions is very positive. This is the first domestic car I've had that doesn't make me miss my prior Honda Accord.

McCormack · 05-02-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CA_Strom

I picked up my new 2013 Fusion SE yesterday, and wow what an improvement over the 2011 Fusion I turned in (company cars)! The 2013 is 100x better in every way over the old model. After 70k nearly trouble free miles on my 2011, it was nice, but also felt cheap and noisy.

The 2013 rides and drives like a European import (as it should). My 2011 had the base 2.5L 4 cyl, and it really had to work to get you up to speed. The 2013 I got has the 1.6L 4 cyl. "Ecoboost" turbo engine and it's very powerful and smooth. The interior on the 2013 is light years ahead of the old model, and even my somewhat stripped SE model has a ton of features. I picked white exterior with the dark sand interior. With a black dash and carpets, the light interior looks really good. The new Fusion design really turns heads, whereas my 2011 looked like a generic "company car".

Only 100 miles on the new ride so far, so we'll see how this plays out. So far the feedback from our fleet of a few hundred new Fusions is very positive. This is the first domestic car I've had that doesn't make me miss my prior Honda Accord.

Turbo, you say.... ? I may need to take a look at those new Fords. What grade fuel is required?

RxZ · 05-02-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by McCormack

Turbo, you say.... ? I may need to take a look at those new Fords. What grade fuel is required?

I was looking this morning, and although I didn't get too deep into it I came away thinking you could use whatever octane rating you wanted at a normal pump.

The reason is the HP and torque numbers are reported as "when using premium fuel" on the Ford website.

McCormack · 05-02-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RxZ

I was looking this morning, and although I didn't get too deep into it I came away thinking you could use whatever octane rating you wanted at a normal pump.

The reason is the HP and torque numbers are reported as "when using premium fuel" on the Ford website.

I thought all turbos required high octane due to compression?

RxZ · 05-02-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by McCormack

I thought all turbos required high octane due to compression?

If I were to buy one, I would run premium unless the manual says otherwise.

Edit:

From Ford's website:

Horsepower (SAE net @ rpm) 1.6 L Ecoboost: 178 @ 5,700 (premium fuel) 173 @ 5,700 (regular fuel) 2.0 L Ecoboost: 240 @ 5,500 (premium fuel) 231 @ 5,500 (regular fuel)

McCormack · 05-02-2013, 12:56 PM

Wow! A 2013 Fusion with the 1.6L EcoBoost and manual trans, with leather is $26,655.

One more thing to make me want to drive my new CVT Subaru into a bridge abutment.

SteelJM1 · 05-02-2013, 01:25 PM

I'm wondering when the auto manufacturers are going to do away with have a big ugly stick for automatic transmission selection. If we're going to push button starts, why cant we have a neat row of buttons on the dash somewhere that say "P R N D" and open up that space for other things?

RxZ · 05-02-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelJM1

I'm wondering when the auto manufacturers are going to do away with have a big ugly stick for automatic transmission selection. If we're going to push button starts, why cant we have a neat row of buttons on the dash somewhere that say "P R N D" and open up that space for other things?

Been done for at least 60 years.

SteelJM1 · 05-02-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RxZ

Been done for at least 60 years.

Heh, well they need to bring it back. What's old is new again, amirite?

CheesyRider · 05-02-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelJM1

Heh, well they need to bring it back. What's old is new again, amirite?

It is back: http://www.lincoln.com/cars/mkz/?hpt...2138a-mkz-frnt

CA_Strom · 05-02-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by McCormack

Turbo, you say.... ? I may need to take a look at those new Fords. What grade fuel is required?

Regular 87 octane is all our fleet car credit cards will allow us to pump. Every other turbo car I've owned (GTI and Vulva C30) wanted top grade premium. I see no mention anywhere in the manual or fuel filler area that says "use premium". Heck even my wifes Lexus ES350 wants super.....

jdiaz · 05-02-2013, 02:13 PM

I use regular fuel in both our VW 2.0T's during cooler weather, and see little difference beyond a slight drop in fuel economy. Never have heard a ping out of either car with regular in the tank.

Bueller · 05-03-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jdiaz

I use regular fuel in both our VW 2.0T's during cooler weather, and see little difference beyond a slight drop in fuel economy. Never have heard a ping out of either car with regular in the tank.

Ah, the beauty of modern injection systems with knock sensors

05-02-2013, 10:49 AM	#153
CA_Strom Cunning Linguist Joined: Jan 2005 Location: The Temples of Syrinx (So. CA) Oddometer: 1,816	I picked up my new 2013 Fusion SE yesterday, and wow what an improvement over the 2011 Fusion I turned in (company cars)! The 2013 is 100x better in every way over the old model. After 70k nearly trouble free miles on my 2011, it was nice, but also felt cheap and noisy. The 2013 rides and drives like a European import (as it should). My 2011 had the base 2.5L 4 cyl, and it really had to work to get you up to speed. The 2013 I got has the 1.6L 4 cyl. "Ecoboost" turbo engine and it's very powerful and smooth. The interior on the 2013 is light years ahead of the old model, and even my somewhat stripped SE model has a ton of features. I picked white exterior with the dark sand interior. With a black dash and carpets, the light interior looks really good. The new Fusion design really turns heads, whereas my 2011 looked like a generic "company car". Only 100 miles on the new ride so far, so we'll see how this plays out. So far the feedback from our fleet of a few hundred new Fusions is very positive. This is the first domestic car I've had that doesn't make me miss my prior Honda Accord. __________________ "It was exciting, and funny later, but nerve-racking at the time -- adventures suck when you're having them" - Neil Peart, Roadshow.

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01-17-2013, 11:58 AM	#152
Grainbelt marginal adventurer Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Minnyhappiness Oddometer: 25,084	I still want a Volvo C30 just to play with the floating dashboard.

05-02-2013, 12:56 PM	#158
McCormack eltiT resU motsuC Joined: Sep 2006 Location: NH Oddometer: 2,830	Wow! A 2013 Fusion with the 1.6L EcoBoost and manual trans, with leather is $26,655. One more thing to make me want to drive my new CVT Subaru into a bridge abutment.

05-02-2013, 01:25 PM	#159
SteelJM1 Undercover KTM rider Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson Oddometer: 829	I'm wondering when the auto manufacturers are going to do away with have a big ugly stick for automatic transmission selection. If we're going to push button starts, why cant we have a neat row of buttons on the dash somewhere that say "P R N D" and open up that space for other things?

05-02-2013, 02:13 PM	#164
jdiaz . Joined: Feb 2002 Location: Elburn, IL Oddometer: 31,200	I use regular fuel in both our VW 2.0T's during cooler weather, and see little difference beyond a slight drop in fuel economy. Never have heard a ping out of either car with regular in the tank.