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Old 03-14-2012, 08:37 PM   #16
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The negative response originates with Indy car fans. This... thing... was proposed as the next-gen open wheel racer for IndyCar.

It's many things, but open-wheel isn't one of them. Open wheel is inherently inefficient, so they tried to shroud the wheels. Fail. It just doesn't look like an open wheel race car.

(The current Indy car also shrouds wheels, but at least it's the rear ones, not the front.)

Let them develop it. No problem. But it's a weird looking thing.
yup. i think it's brilliant, but it's just not an indy car (to me).

it would be a great spec chassis series that i'd watch, particularly on road courses.

just not an indy car.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:55 AM   #17
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Ive seen this car in person and was not impressed because it is a steel frame construction and not an impressive one at that. it didnt have a power source when I saw it and when I asked about that I was told they were considering a motorcycle engine. they were still gathering sponsorship at the time.

I believe it to be more of a promotional deal/attention seeker than anything.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:06 PM   #18
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At half the weight and aero drag, it should be just as fast as the LMPs with half the power, about 300HP from its turbo Nissan 4. It has about 70% of the weight in back, which is why the front tires are only 5" wide. I think it is a cool idea and not as ugly as the original DP cars, IMO.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:06 PM   #19
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It has about 70% of the weight in back, which is why the front tires are only 5" wide.
That's the thing I was wondering about. A narrow nose with no wings. What's the front end grip feel like?
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #20
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It looks like it should be an LSR car for Bonneville.
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Lets hope it doesnt get stuck in the mud..
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:18 PM   #22
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Didn't Rolf Biland essentially come up with this idea for the Sidecar GP's back in the 80's (before it was banned)?

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Old 03-16-2012, 08:35 AM   #23
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I like it. Then again, I had one of these as a kid too:

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Ive seen this car in person and was not impressed because it is a steel frame construction and not an impressive one at that. it didnt have a power source when I saw it and when I asked about that I was told they were considering a motorcycle engine. they were still gathering sponsorship at the time.

I believe it to be more of a promotional deal/attention seeker than anything.
The car you saw was almost certainly a design mock up for aero testing and press release photos. The racecar has a carbon fiber tub, with the engine and rear suspension attached via steel trellis. The engine is a purpose-built Nissan 1.6L, direct-injected, turbocharged, four-cylinder.

Can't find any large images at the moment . . .



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The presentation on their website is pretty painful. I mean, their influential experiences include "social networking revolution."

I am always skeptical when a relative no-name comes up with a radically different concept or layout for a car and claims it is superior. Maybe I'll be proven wrong in this case.
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WIthout looking it up, I think one of the goals of the project is performance with efficiency, especially fuel efficiency. At least, that's what IndyCar was interested in.

When I see that narrow front go into turns, I keep expecting a bunch of roll.

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The presentation on their website is pretty painful. I mean, their influential experiences include "social networking revolution."
From a different page, natch.

Ben Bowlby – Chief Technology Officer

Ben’s passion for cars began early — at age 16 he built his own 2-seat road car and followed it up by building a race car just three years later. His enthusiasm led him to drive his own race cars in the UK for six years during which he completed his BSc Honors degree in Mechanical Engineering. Ben joined Lola Cars in 1991 and went on to become Chief Designer of the company. During his time at Lola, he designed Champ Cars, European and Nippon F3000, SR1, SR2, LMP 675 sports cars and BTCC touring cars. In 2003, Ben joined Chip Ganassi Racing as Technical Director where he worked on the development of the team’s IndyCars, Grand Am prototypes and NASCAR cars, as well as developing a unique full-scale straight-line aerodynamic test facility. Ben began working on the DeltaWing concept in January 2009.
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