Nfl 2012...

[mike54]

Originally Posted by liquidsmile

Biggest advantage Atlanta will have over GB this year is that we have faced a lot of running QBs this year. Vick, Cam, RG3, and now Wilson. Unfortunately, Kap is closer to Cam than the others.

We are pretty decent at stopping great running backs this year, but as Mike has said, Cam gave us fits this year and he does not have nearly the running back, or defense that Kap has.

On paper, Niners should win this game, fortunately it is played on the field where anything can happen.

I expect it to be a good game. Mike Smith should have a beer with Jeff Fisher early this week.

[]I)Money]

Originally Posted by Mr_Gone

I certainly hope that Ray isn't permanently brain-damaged from football, but most of those "head shots" were Ray hitting defenseless players. That's the only thing I don't respect about his game. Team player = yes. Inspirational = yes. High football IQ = yes. Hall of Fame = without a doubt.

But that dance before the game makes him look like a spastic jerk.

so, aside from your frothy-mouthed hate, you need to back that shit up. The thing is, Ray has been known for brutal forearm shivers, not helmet-to helmet hits. In this new era of offensive protectionism, he has consistently been pointed to as an example of how to play hard within the rules.

[Mr_Gone]

Originally Posted by ]I)Money

so, aside from your frothy-mouthed hate, you need to back that shit up. The thing is, Ray has been known for brutal forearm shivers, not helmet-to helmet hits. In this new era of offensive protectionism, he has consistently been pointed to as an example of how to play hard within the rules.

Did I ruffle your skirt, little girl? Grow up. There's no "frothy-mouthed hate" in my post.

As for Ray Lewis being pointed to as an example of how to play hard within the rules.... NFL players disagree with you, naming him the second dirtiest player in the game.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ent-dangerous/

[kckeeny]

Niners and Pats in the Big Game.
Thats what I'm sticking to
And I would love to see the SanFran QB take a hit like RGIII did.
It's going to happen, And I want to watch it over and over in slow motion.
I want to see how tough this freak of nature really is.
The Pack never touched him,
I don't remember if his uniform even got a grass stain on it.

[koncha]

Originally Posted by Mr_Gone

Did I ruffle your skirt, little girl? Grow up. There's no "frothy-mouthed hate" in my post.

As for Ray Lewis being pointed to as an example of how to play hard within the rules.... NFL players disagree with you, naming him the second dirtiest player in the game.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ent-dangerous/

Do you know the difference between a head shot and a forearm shiver? Offensive players don't like either of them but a shiver is legal. Ray is the master of the shiver. That is why he gets called dirty. Not because he actually is, but because he uses a technique offenses want banned.

BTW, you backup link doesn't say shit to support your assertion about head shots.

[Mr_Gone]

Originally Posted by kckeeny

Niners and Pats in the Big Game.
Thats what I'm sticking to
And I would love to see the SanFran QB take a hit like RGIII did.
It's going to happen, And I want to watch it over and over in slow motion.
I want to see how tough this freak of nature really is.
The Pack never touched him,
I don't remember if his uniform even got a grass stain on it.

I'm going to agree... Patriots and Niners. And that should be one helluva game!!!

[Mr_Gone]

Originally Posted by koncha

Do you know the difference between a head shot and a forearm shiver? Offensive players don't like either of them but a shiver is legal. Ray is the master of the shiver. That is why he gets called dirty. Not because he actually is, but because he uses a technique offenses want banned.

BTW, you backup link doesn't say shit to support your assertion about head shots.

No, it doesn't.

My initial response was to this post:

Originally Posted by Stinez

Ray's been a bit over the top but I certainly respect his attitude and there's no doubt of his influence on man-up style of football and Hall of Fame credentials.

I'm hopeful that he'll stay mentally sharp through his lifetime because most of his very physical career has allowed head shots.

All I said was that I hope Ray does not suffer any permanent effects from his NFL career, but those "head shots" would have been self-inflicted. Wasn't me that brought up "head shots" and I didn't post any frothy-mouthed hatred. I stated one opinion (I hope Ray does not suffer permanent damage) and a fact (he's taken helmet-to-helmet shots at defenseless players.

Because you can't argue that Ray Lewis doesn't take helmet-to-helmet shots at defenseless players.... He might not do it as often as, say, Rodney Harrison, but he does it. Ask Hines Ward. And I'm not even saying he's trying to hurt other players, or that he's doing it intentionally. Sometimes it happens. But you can't deny he does it.

[Hodag]

Originally Posted by Mr_Gone

I'm going to agree... Patriots and Niners. And that should be one helluva game!!!

patriots haven't been as good since they quit video taping the other teams walk throughs...

[Mr_Gone]

Originally Posted by Hodag

patriots haven't been as good since they quit video taping the other teams walk throughs...

[shrineclown]

Originally Posted by Hodag

patriots haven't been as good since they quit video taping the other teams walk throughs...

If it was that effective, you would think all the other morons would invest in a handheld video camera for $300; instead of multi-million dollar punk washouts.

[liquidsmile]

Looks like Chip Kelly is going to leave Oregon for the Eagles after all.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...eagles-sources

I did not see that coming. I thought he said he was happy staying in Oregon.

[Mr_Gone]

Originally Posted by liquidsmile

Looks like Chip Kelly is going to leave Oregon for the Eagles after all.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...eagles-sources

I did not see that coming. I thought he said he was happy staying in Oregon.

Wow, that's a surprise.

You gotta think Oregon is ticked off....

[Jurgen]

Originally Posted by Mr_Gone

Wow, that's a surprise.

You gotta think Oregon is ticked off....

That is a surprise. It will be interesting to see how he does in the NFL... but he needs a QB... and a good GM... and...

[WaterWheel]

To get him to move from Oregon to Philly, they must've thrown a shit load of money at him.

He better get a kevlar top for that visor of his for when Philly fans chuck a few Energizers at him.

[Mr_Gone]

Originally Posted by Jurgen

That is a surprise. It will be interesting to see how he does in the NFL... but he needs a QB... and a good GM... and...

He definitely has some tough decisions to make, and some high hurdles to jump.