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Old 05-29-2012, 10:13 AM   #91
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Here's an offical Yamaha website with owners service manuals. Just put in the model & year.

http://www.yamahaownershandbook.com.au/?r=0


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Old 05-31-2012, 06:22 AM   #92
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Gundy - below are the part numbers I got, though as I said, haven't been installed quite yet... These motors are all quite similar though so I don't anticipate issues. Even if so, i'll just re-sell the basket on Ebay.

More than once source said the gear pitch on the primary to clutch basket is different from the WR to YFZ, so I made sure to find an auction where the seller was parting the whole quad, so i got a matching gear set.

5D3-16150-00-00 = basket
5TG-16111-00-00 = primary gear

http://www.motosport.com/atv/oem-par.../YFZ450/CLUTCH


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i'm good with that! my local friend rides a DR350 and is always talking about adventuring abroad. furthest we've talked of yet is Uwharrie. i'll be in touch when we think of something.
Hey boet, put some pics on when you install that clutchbasket, also tell us of all the negatives after installed. I wanted to do this allready, parts was in my ebay basket, but decided to let someone else do it first in case of disasterous failure or unforeseen troubles with the install.
primary gears on pre 07 was 22/62, 07+ 23/61, so a 15 Cs runs +-the same on pre07 as 14 Cs on 07.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:23 PM   #93
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Here is my thread on Wild Dogs SA

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=94268.0
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:16 AM   #94
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Ping Honda_Jedi: How is your install going?
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Old 06-09-2012, 08:18 AM   #95
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I'ed like to hear about the clutch mod as well. We are converting a WR and a cush mod is one of the things we are trying to figure out.
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Old 06-09-2012, 08:37 AM   #96
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:24 AM   #97
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I just saw a deal on two 08' WR450's for $2500 each in Nevada. Here's the link http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/mcy/3065919781.html


I'd jump on both of them if it wasn't 2000+ miles away...

Let us know if you're the lucky guy who gets one.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:44 AM   #98
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dang thats a deal right there


went riding with some friends some nice singletrack..
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:42 AM   #99
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That's a sweet looking bike. I don't care for the "natural" color tanks on most bikes, but it looks great on the WR. A blue IMS was included with my bike, or I'd order one.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:06 PM   #100
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For the sake of discussion, why would anyone get a WR over a KTM RFS bike?

Is there something I'm missing? Brand loyalty perhaps? To be different?

The KTM has:

Similar maintenance intervals
Easier valve checks
More oil capacity
Much better suspension
6-speed transmission
Better parts
Similar price of admission
Much better aftermarket

Again, not trying to be a dick, genuine question. I love Yamaha, I think they are the best of the Japanese bikes, both dirt and street, but the KTM outclasses the WR is almost every area, I'm wondering what the allure is.
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Old 06-10-2012, 05:24 PM   #101
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I looked at KTMs when I was shopping but they didn't really seem affordable. I was looking at the 530 & 450 EXC, 09' and newer, since 08' was a first year and had some possible issues.

Which ones are the "RFS"? I don't see them listed on Bikefinds http://www.bikefinds.com/ktm-450-for-sale

All the KTMs I saw locally were too expensive, so I began to look for a 70 degree Husaberg, since they seemed like a better deal and had 6 speeds with FI. The best deals I'd found on those were $5K and then I found the street legal 08' WR450 for $4K and decided to give it a try. It seems like the Yamaha parts are much more affordable, and a steering stabilizer is "optional".

I don't have anything "against" KTMs except they seemed to be more expensive than I wanted to spend for the year models I saw locally,....and I don't really care for orange. I might try one sometime, but more likely will get a Husaberg first.


Btw, which "parts" are better? And what "aftermarket" stuff can't we get for a WR?
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:10 PM   #102
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Btw, which "parts" are better? And what "aftermarket" stuff can't we get for a WR?

The RFS bikes are 02-07 400, 450 and 525 EXC models. Usually can get one between 2-4k modded.

Parts? Quality handlebar, pegs, Brembo brakes with SS brake lines stock, Excel rims, Magura hydraulic clutch, etc etc.

Regarding aftermarket, there are 5-6 tanks to choose from alone. (reading that the WR only has one option?)

Again, just a thought. The idea that KTMs are more expensive is a lot like many other misconceptions about KTMs......a fallacy.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:53 PM   #103
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I think pricing & availability of both KTMs & WR450s varys depending on your location around the country. I'm in NC and you're in CA. If you look at the map on Bikefinds there are a lot of KTMs in CA and none in NC right now. There aren't any WR450s in NC right now either...
But my point is when you're shopping for a bike price & availability are obvious conciderations.

Not arguing, but there are a number of tanks for the WR450. Clarke, IMS, Acerbis, & Safari all offer tanks for them. Acerbis has a 6+ gallon tank for the 03-06 years.
WR450s come with Excel rims. I think my ProTaper bars are stock. Pegs?

I'm not sure how much more braking capacity a bike can utilize on dirt, where tire traction seems to be the limiting factor. Is a hydraulic clutch really "better"?

I admit that I'd appreciate a 6th gear, especially if I did a lot of high speed riding for long distances. With stock gearing my bike's able to climb anything I've come across in the woods and still hit 85 on pavement, but of course that's pretty buzzy. It has enough power to lift the front wheel in 4 gears.

Do the RFS bikes have a metal subframe? I like being able to mount a rear rack if I want one. I know the EXCs and 70 degree Husabergs only have plastic subframes, and are limited to the loop type bags.

I'm not trying to "sell" you (or anybody) on a WR450, but they are very good bikes that are worth a test ride if you've never ridden one.


As they say "skills are more important than the tools...."
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:07 PM   #104
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As they say "skills are more important than the tools...."
Agree 100%. My 450 EXC was a WAY better bike than I am a rider.

And yes, all KTMs come with metal subframes. Only Husabergs have the plastic stuff (that I'm aware of)

Also, I lived in the Northeast for the previous 40 years. Had enough of the crappy weather and high cost of living and moved West.

Again, I'm not trying to get into a pissing match, WR vs EXC. I'm just making conversation. As I said, I think Yamaha makes great bikes, but like most Japanese manufacturers have left the dual sport/enduro class neglected for decades.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:08 PM   #105
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For the sake of discussion, why would anyone get a WR over a KTM RFS bike?

Is there something I'm missing? Brand loyalty perhaps? To be different?

The KTM has:

Similar maintenance intervals
Easier valve checks
More oil capacity
Much better suspension
6-speed transmission
Better parts
Similar price of admission
Much better aftermarket

Again, not trying to be a dick, genuine question. I love Yamaha, I think they are the best of the Japanese bikes, both dirt and street, but the KTM outclasses the WR is almost every area, I'm wondering what the allure is.
Linkless, and vague rear suspension on the KTM......Owners mostly think they are worth gold when reselling them even after ringing all of the short lifespan out of the top end.

I dont think a KTM handles better than the Yamahas but thats just my opinion.
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