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Old 04-26-2013, 06:06 PM   #1
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Tires for Dauntless - GS

Hello,

I've been searching for some tires for my rig - pusher and sidecar. Both are currently car wheels with 165/80 R15 tires.

Options:
  • Nankan CX668 - available locally
  • Kumho Powerstar 758 - available locally
  • General -- have them now and am not impressed
  • Vredstein - Sprint Classic or T-trac - internet only
None of the options get particularly good reviews for wet, snow or dirt.

The Vredstein are double the cost of the others when I factor in shipping and having them balanced.

Opinions, alternatives?

I'm in Northern Colorado.

Thanks!
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Old 04-26-2013, 10:45 PM   #2
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If those are the standard car wheels that DMC sells (4"x15") and your GS is an 1100, 1150 or 1200, then you can run anything from a 155 to a 165 in any profile, and a 175 in a 65 or lower profile.

To see the various possibilities, you just need to find a tire selling site that will let you search for 155-15, 165-15 and 175-15 without having to specify the profile. One useful site, believe it or not is eBay. HERE is an eBay search for 155-15, and here is 165-15, and 175-15. Lotsa possibilities! All depends on how you use your rig and what kind of tire you want.

For the Vredesteins, the Sprint Classic is available in 155 and 165, but if you go to a website like tiresbyweb.com and search for 175/65/15, there are four different Vredesteins available in that size. I myself am currently running a VREDESTEIN SNOWTRAC 3 in a 175/65/15 with a DMC 4x15 wheel on my 1150GSA--aggressive snow tire tread that will serve me well on gravel and might be OK on mud and sand though I hope to hell I don't have to put it to the test. If I was going to use my rig more on paved roads, I'd probably go with the Vredestein T-Trac or the Michelin XZX (had those on my Triumph TR-4 back in the day), the Nexen SB802, or because it's so sexy--the Yokohana Avid Envigor. Really.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:51 AM   #3
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Mrs. B and I were just talking last night about new tires for the rig.
Thanks for the info DRONE.

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Old 04-27-2013, 06:41 AM   #4
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Hmmmmm !

The Nankangs are a pretty decent tire they are round,balance easily and I beleive a copy of one of Bridgestones older all season designs, it depends on where your riding how much mud you can deal with. I bought a groovier tedious but doable. My thoughts :http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...=826829&page=6
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:21 AM   #5
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DRONE:

Good info. Thanks.

Thought you were running a Vredestein Snow +

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Old 04-27-2013, 12:11 PM   #6
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If those are the standard car wheels that DMC sells (4"x15") and your GS is an 1100, 1150 or 1200, then you can run anything from a 155 to a 165 in any profile, and a 175 in a 65 or lower profile.

To see the various possibilities, you just need to find a tire selling site that will let you search for 155-15, 165-15 and 175-15 without having to specify the profile. One useful site, believe it or not is eBay. HERE is an eBay search for 155-15, and here is 165-15, and 175-15. Lotsa possibilities! All depends on how you use your rig and what kind of tire you want.

For the Vredesteins, the Sprint Classic is available in 155 and 165, but if you go to a website like tiresbyweb.com and search for 175/65/15, there are four different Vredesteins available in that size. I myself am currently running a VREDESTEIN SNOWTRAC 3 in a 175/65/15 with a DMC 4x15 wheel on my 1150GSA--aggressive snow tire tread that will serve me well on gravel and might be OK on mud and sand though I hope to hell I don't have to put it to the test. If I was going to use my rig more on paved roads, I'd probably go with the Vredestein T-Trac or the Michelin XZX (had those on my Triumph TR-4 back in the day), the Nexen SB802, or because it's so sexy--the Yokohana Avid Envigor. Really.
Drone,
Thanks for all the info. I've been looking primarily at 165/80 to avoid giving up ground clearance.

These dimensions are from a generic size calculator:
165 80 15 - 25.4
175 65 15 - 24
165 65 15 - 23.4
155 65 15 - 22.9

I really like the Conti Winter Contact, but it is only available in a 165/65, that I can find. I don't know if I'm willing to give up the inch of ground clearance. I've already scraped the plate up a little bit riding some roads with ruts.

I wish I had a "riding style" or even normal environment, but I don't... I've got multiple rides and always am searching for that compromise tire, brake pad, suspension, etc. Some highway or commuting is always between me and the good roads.

The GS is a '10 1200 with a M720 DMC. I'm off to pull the wheels now to verify that they are indeed 4". The wheels are a 5-lug, which may differ from some other Dauntless rigs I've seen.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:24 PM   #7
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Well, for ride height, you want the 165/80 alright. Bear in mind that those "classic" tires that are size 165R15 are basically more or less 80 series tires. So the Vredesteins and a bunch of classic tires sold by Coker are in your target zone. But the SB802's are also 80's and might be worth a look.

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Good info. Thanks.
Thought you were running a Vredestein Snow +
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You're right, I was--it was a 155/80/15. I used it up (after 13,000 miles), so thought I'd try the 175/65/15 Snowtrac--more aggressive tread blocks, wider contact patch, and about an inch shorter in ride height but I've got good clearance so I can afford the inch. I just mounted this tire a week ago. If it turns out to be less than what I hoped, I have a brand new Snow+ on the shelf ready to go!
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:27 AM   #8
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On road trips I run the Nexen SB802 for longevity but for local riding I use the Vredestein M&S for traction. You can get the Vredestein M&S in Denver over the counter. I tried the T Trac and when you get the skinny T Trac for the GS you lose the center portion so they are really a waste.

Vredestein M&S and T Trac in our size:


Vredestein T Trac in full size:
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:38 PM   #9
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On road trips I run the Nexen SB802 for longevity but for local riding I use the Vredestein M&S for traction. You can get the Vredestein M&S in Denver over the counter.
Dana - Where can I get the Vredestein M&S in Denver?

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Old 04-30-2013, 07:24 AM   #10
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There have been a few threads covering this, here is one with a couple of places including Premier in Denver.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=823816

Call Premier, do not just rely on their website.
http://www.premiertire.com/
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:07 AM   #11
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I just put a NangKang on my pusher wheel and like it.Its better than the tire Dauntless sent me in the kit...No complaints
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