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Old 03-28-2012, 12:30 PM   #1
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Chains suck!

So, I have an SV650 and after 23k miles and two years of riding I am due for a new chain + sprockets. Not to mention that the rear wheel is always filthy dirty and I have to clean and lube the thing every week.

How does everyone else feel about chains? At this point I would love shaft or belt driven sportbike.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:33 PM   #2
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I've owned four chain-driven bikes.

With modern chains, it's really no big deal.

I would wipe down my chain every now and then with 80w90 gear oil, then after a few minutes, wipe off the excess.

Never was much of a problem.

Now, if there was a product that would keep bugs and road grime off a bike, that would be something...
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:37 PM   #3
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So, I have an SV650 and after 23k miles and two years of riding I am due for a new chain + sprockets. Not to mention that the rear wheel is always filthy dirty and I have to clean and lube the thing every week.

How does everyone else feel about chains? At this point I would love shaft or belt driven sportbike.
I love chains. Best devices ever. I converted my car to chain drive. How do you think this news will affect your experience with the SV?
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:43 PM   #4
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If you didn't lube it every week it wouldn't be so dirty.

People make chain maintenance out to be far more critical and difficult than it needs to be.

I like chains, since I like having the ability to easily and inexpensively change the bike's effective gearing.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:45 PM   #5
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I love chains. Best devices ever. I converted my car to chain drive. How do you think this news will affect your experience with the SV?
Well you can always buy one of those old school n600 hondas with the chain drive rear wheels...
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:46 PM   #6
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Instead of lubing them use Dupont Teflon spray (Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever). It's the same stuff as Chain Wax and it won't fling all over your wheel.

Also, are you sure you need sprockets? I usually switch out sprockets every other chain. You're likely OK unless they're ramped.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:48 PM   #7
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If you didn't lube it every week it wouldn't be so dirty.

People make chain maintenance out to be far more critical and difficult than it needs to be.

I like chains, since I like having the ability to easily and inexpensively change the bike's effective gearing.
Well I figure I should lube the chain every 500 miles or so which is every week when I use the bike to commute to work. Good point about having the ability to change the gear ratio. Also, chains are relatively inexpensive and easy to service when compared to shafts.

I'm not saying chains are garbage and we should do away with them, just saying I'm getting tired of new chains and sprockets every two years + all the grime + the lubing/cleaning
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:48 PM   #8
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It's just a matter of affordability. Shaft driven bikes requires zero maintenance but they are expensive and heavier, chain is simpler, cheaper and lighter but requires basic maintenance. There's a reason one of the best selling bikes of all time BMW R1200 GS is shaft driven.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:49 PM   #9
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Instead of lubing them use Dupont Teflon spray (Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever). It's the same stuff as Chain Wax and it won't fling all over your wheel.

Also, are you sure you need sprockets? I usually switch out sprockets every other chain. You're likely OK unless they're ramped.
Yep I use the dupont spray. the best one I have used so far. But still, the back wheel gets dirty (I do not clean the bike very often either). And yeah the back sprocket isn't looking very healthy.
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:14 PM   #10
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.... Shaft driven bikes requires zero maintenance ... There's a reason one of the best selling bikes of all time BMW R1200 GS is shaft driven.
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:40 PM   #11
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Paging Boxer-Lust to the shaft driven belt powered white courtesy phone....
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:52 PM   #12
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It's just a matter of affordability. Shaft driven bikes requires zero maintenance but they are expensive and heavier, chain is simpler, cheaper and lighter but requires basic maintenance. There's a reason one of the best selling bikes of all time BMW R1200 GS is shaft driven.
For BMW maybe but in terms of numbers sold compared to other bikes the R1200GS are tiny in comparison. There are bikes that have sold in the tens of millions, the GS in tens of thousands. Still a great bike but a little perspective is OK.

I have owned chain drive bikes, belt drive bikes, and shaft drive bikes and I chose to live in Shaft City.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:06 PM   #13
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I would love an enclosed chain drive bike, like the old xv-920's. The chains will last hundreds of thousands of miles, with no mess, and almost no maintenance.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:23 PM   #14
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For BMW maybe but in terms of numbers sold compared to other bikes the R1200GS are tiny in comparison. There are bikes that have sold in the tens of millions, the GS in tens of thousands. Still a great bike but a little perspective is OK.

I have owned chain drive bikes, belt drive bikes, and shaft drive bikes and I chose to live in Shaft City.


You mean hundred of thousands:

"The R1200GS is the best selling motorcycle that BMW has built, on 3 August 2007 it produced the 100,000th model."
Source Wikipidea. It's over 250000 as we speak.

There's a reason I said ONE OF THE best selling motorcycles of all time.
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Old 03-28-2012, 02:55 PM   #15
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You mean hundred of thousands:

"The R1200GS is the best selling motorcycle that BMW has built, on 3 August 2007 it produced the 100,000th model."
Source Wikipidea. It's over 250000 as we speak.

There's a reason I said ONE OF THE best selling motorcycles of all time.
250,000 units is still just .004% of the best selling motorcycle of all time number. I can appreciate your point though.
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