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Old 11-21-2014, 09:26 AM   #1
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Cheap chain degreaser.

I've read somewhere that people are using Simple Green to clean and degrease their chains. Does anybody have a first hand experience with it? Can it mess up o-rings?

If not, than what is a good, cheap degreaser?

And on the subject of chains, have anybody used that chain wax stuff, to lubricate and protect the chain? I forget the exact name of it, but supposedly its pretty good, with minimal fling.

This is for my commuter bike, so no offroading, just tarmac.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:34 AM   #2
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Kerosene to clean / DuPont Chain Saver (yellow can) to lube.
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:40 AM   #3
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I use the Motorex degreaser and their "Road-Strong" chain wax. It's ludicrously good stuff. Not sure what your definition of cheap is, but both large bottles can be had under $25 and should last you a LONG time. As long as you give the wax time to properly set up there is little, if any, fling off. It's all we use at my shop.
I've gone through so many different brands of chain lube trying to find a brand that works and doesn't fling. Bel Ray, PJ1, Castrol, Maxima, you name it.
The best part about the Motorex stuff is that the degreaser will very quickly clean your chain, taking any built up wax and road grime with it. The wax is white, so it's really easy to see where you've applied, and VERY easy to tell when it has gotten dirty enough to warrant a fresh application.
I allow 30 minutes to an hour for the wax to fully harden. You don't have to do this, it just minimizes the chance for fling off.

Again, not sure if this fits your definition for cheap, but this stuff works insanely well. I can't imagine screwing with simple green or kerosene, especially on a $100+ chain, but that's just me. YMMV.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:51 AM   #4
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I clean with WD40 and 2 tooth brushes (handles bolted together bristle heads touching each other bristle to bristle , AKA home made grunge brush)
you can buy wd40 by the gallon at a hardware store and put in a spray bottle , cheaper than buying cans.

WD40 is kerosene based and is a water displacer hench the name
( Water Displacement 40th formula )
so after you have washed the bike , not only will it get the gunk off , it will push away the water .


then lube the chain with chain wax Maxxis brand
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:07 AM   #5
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My klr I bought used with low miles. Unfortunately the guy before me lubed it with grease...like thick grease. It was a damn mess. But with so few miles I hated to waste the chain. I pulled it off and soaked it in kerosene which worked well.

Then input on a Scotts oiler and it is really easy now, I just wipe it off. That oiler is the bomb by the way
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:24 AM   #6
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Does WD40 wreck rubber o-rings in the chain? I've read mixed up responses to that. Some people say they use WD40 without any problems, some say it will expand o-rings which will make them wear out much faster.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:24 PM   #7
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Does WD40 wreck rubber o-rings in the chain? I've read mixed up responses to that. Some people say they use WD40 without any problems, some say it will expand o-rings which will make them wear out much faster.
http://www.watt-man.com/uploads/WD40experiment.pdf

A good read. I still won't use WD-40 on my chain, but it definitely won't ruin the chain.
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Old 11-21-2014, 12:37 PM   #8
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Chain Pickle Chain Cleaner and Degreaser

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/chain-pickle/

Never tried it myself, use the s100 which works great but not cheap.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:07 PM   #9
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I've been using WD40 and rags to clean for a long time. I use chain wax to lube.

I've changed at least 6 to 8 chains. most 525 lasted me about 20-25k miles. 530 chains will last me 35k miles.
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Old 11-21-2014, 01:07 PM   #10
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http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/chain-pickle/

Never tried it myself, use the s100 which works great but not cheap.

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Old 11-21-2014, 01:22 PM   #11
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Petroleum / lamp oil (Kerosene in American English, I guess) works perfectly for cleaning chains. A bottle costs next to nothing and lasts for a very long time. It also works wonders for cleaning rims and parts of the frame, you can simply wipe everything from thick fat/oil residues to tar stains off like they are nothing.

Many of the commercial "chain cleaners" are based on petroleum too, but will be considerably more expensive and I cannot think of any way they could be more effective than pure petroleum. It really works wonders. So, I will stick to my trusty bottle of petroleum based lamp oil. Heck, it even has that special citrus fragrance.
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Old 11-21-2014, 05:43 PM   #12
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In the owners manual, Suzuki says to use kerosene to clean the chain.
I wonder if diesel could be used instead-easier to find?
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Old 11-21-2014, 05:52 PM   #13
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Diesel would work too.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:05 PM   #14
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So this stuff?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-Str...KP85/203000700

Do you just dump a rug in it and wipe, or spray chain with a spray bottle?
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:53 PM   #15
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In the owners manual, Suzuki says to use kerosene to clean the chain.
I wonder if diesel could be used instead-easier to find?
Yes, diesel is just low-grade kerosene.
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