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Old 04-07-2015, 03:09 PM   #1
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TKC80 or Karoo 3?

Just got a great deal on a '09 F650GS.

The seller is offering two choices in tires: TKC80 or Karoo 3. Any with experience with either one of these? I do ride off road quite some, need something that will grip in mud but still have good performance on the street.

Open to any suggestions.
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Old 04-07-2015, 03:19 PM   #2
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Get the TKC 80. It is a soft tire but those knobs on the edge will work better in dirt than any rounded off tire without knobs. It will wear sooner and might not be the best for pavement, but much better in dirt.
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Old 04-07-2015, 03:47 PM   #3
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TKC80 is going to do better off-road, especially in the mud. It is a pretty decent on road tire, but the rear does wear quickly if you are doing a lot of pavement. On the 1200GSA, I don't even expect to make 3000 miles on the rear. I'm sure you'll get more miles on the lighter bike, but no idea how much.

Have you posted up pics of the new bike anywhere?
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:17 PM   #4
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TKC80 is going to do better off-road, especially in the mud. It is a pretty decent on road tire, but the rear does wear quickly if you are doing a lot of pavement. On the 1200GSA, I don't even expect to make 3000 miles on the rear. I'm sure you'll get more miles on the lighter bike, but no idea how much.
I am giving it some research. Seems that the average on a 8GS is 4000miles on the rear. Maybe I would be lucky to get 5000miles on them.

I'm thinking of upgrading the tires to something better now. Suggestions?

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Old 04-07-2015, 04:49 PM   #5
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I am giving it some research. Seems that the average on a 8GS is 4000miles on the rear. Maybe I would be lucky to get 5000miles on them.

I'm upgrading to something better now. Suggestions?

You have three votes for TKC80 and now mine making it 4 votes. Only tire I use; primarily because I ride off road, but it is fine on pavement [ugh!]. If you ride fast on pavement, especially in high heat periods, you literally melt the soft rubber compound and reduce mileage.

Basics analysis: How much of what road type will you travel over how many miles?

The "Tipping Point' is that the correct tires are cheap insurance for keeping the bike rubber side down...if you have gravel/mud/sand and do not have the skills of a MC racer then consider the merit of trading mileage for safety.

Ain't complicated and have fun!

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Old 04-07-2015, 04:57 PM   #6
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Noise aside, TKcs are remarkably normal feeling on road in the dry.

Use them with confidence.
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:03 PM   #7
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:58 PM   #8
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The TKC80 seems to be better choice for sure. But, now am looking into chipping in a bit more and get some better ones installed now. A friend of mine swears by the Heidenau K60 Scout. Any thoughts?
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:25 PM   #9
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Voilà! There she is looking naked, for now. ;-)
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:02 PM   #10
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I put TKC's on my 2010 F650GS. They were good on dirt and fine on street; I was quite satisfied with them. They lasted about 4k miles. I then installed Mitas E-07's to try something different. I find they feel better on both dirt and pavement and inspire more confidence. I can't yet comment cogently on longevity as I have only put 3K miles on them, but it seems like they will easily outlast the TKC's. I highly recommend them.
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:16 PM   #11
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I like the Karoo 3

I've never used the TKCs on my 1200GS, but I do really like the Karoo 3. The road handling and cornering is just as good as the Tourances, but they're much more stable on loose surfaces and mud. Lots of road noise over 65mph. I usually get about 4K miles on the rears, and twice that on the fronts. But they wear quite nicely. My buddy (1150GS) always get's cupping on the blocks of his TKCs, possibly compromising the tires long before their time.
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Old 04-07-2015, 09:56 PM   #12
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I run the TKC 80 on the front of a 800 GS and a Mitas e07 on the rear. It is a great combination. They work really well both off road and on pavement. I get over 9000 miles on the front and over 6000 on the rear Mitas. I only get about 3500 on a rear TKC 80. I put over 8000 on a K60 rear, but it wasn't near as good either on or off road as the Mitas.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:15 PM   #13
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...need something that will grip in mud but still have good performance on the street.
Karoo 3 have zero grip on mud, fine on tarmac and gravel. That is, it does have some grip but not sideways as the grooves are just to narrow and low in that direction. So you will crash.
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Old 04-08-2015, 02:28 AM   #14
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sand?

Hello for first time my name is Zafiris and I'm from Greece. What's your opinion about best grip on soft sand gravel between these 2 tires? I have a v Strom 650 and at summer season we use our bike and to sand tarmac. The tire that I use now is tourance next and its not the perfect tire on sand. I have seen many reviews about these 2 tires and I want your opinion too. I reminded u that its for summer season and soft sand roads.

Sorry for my bad English and thank u for your time
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:43 AM   #15
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I run the TKC 80 on the front of a 800 GS and a Mitas e07 on the rear. It is a great combination. They work really well both off road and on pavement. I get over 9000 miles on the front and over 6000 on the rear Mitas. I only get about 3500 on a rear TKC 80. I put over 8000 on a K60 rear, but it wasn't near as good either on or off road as the Mitas.

Have you ever tired front and rear with a Mitas?
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