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Old 04-13-2012, 06:52 AM   #1
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Speaking of ATGATT....Another State goes Helmetless

Made me wonder how many out there in ADVRider land go helmetless?

http://www.freep.com/article/2012041...sey=nav%7Chead
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:05 AM   #2
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Let those who ride decide.

Good.

Now if only WA, OR, CA, NV, NE, MO, LA, MS, TN, GA, NC, VA, WV, VT, NJ NY & MA would do the same.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:13 AM   #3
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I lived in AZ for a while, and I decided to run to the store for a six-pack one afternoon, sans helmet. Never again. I felt too exposed, the wind noise and buffeting was even more horrendous (I ride a 950 ADV) and I kept getting sandblasted and bug-blasted.

I like my little bubble of civility around my head, the fact it protects is icing on the cake. Gives me the ability to concentrate on the important things, like going fast!

Having said all that, I'm with DAKEZ on this one. Let those who ride decide.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:26 AM   #4
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Good.

Now if only WA, OR, CA, NV, NE, MO, LA, MS, TN, GA, NC, VA, WV, VT, NJ NY & MA would do the same.
Why not MD?
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:33 AM   #5
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Why not MD?

Eh' no one actually likes Maryland.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:33 AM   #6
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Why not MD?
Because I looked at the Helmet law map on a net-book and MD was too small to see.

For the record I wear a helmet EVERY time I ride even when I am in states that do not require one.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:42 AM   #7
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I agree with DAKEZ on this. I always wear mine but don't want big brother making the decision for me.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:45 AM   #8
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I agree with DAKEZ on this. I always wear mine but don't want big brother making the decision for me.
Another one in agrement. I always wear a helmet, but hate having laws telling what I can or cannot do. we need less government and to get our freedoms back.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:48 AM   #9
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For the record I wear a helmet EVERY time I ride even when I am in states that do not require one.
As do I....I have become so accustomed to wearing it I feel odd if I don't. Just like a seat belt in a car...I don't have to wear one but I don't feel comfortable when I do not wear it.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:55 AM   #10
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I agree with DAKEZ on this. I always wear mine but don't want big brother making the decision for me.
Yes, that's my opinion also. But I will admit that the only reason I ever started wearing a helmet was due to USAF regulations way back in 1970. If you rode on base, you had to wear a helmet. I had already been riding for nine years and never owned a helmet. I got used to it and haven't ridden without one since. So big brother actually did me some good at that point.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:58 AM   #11
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i could care less who wears what... but. Please pick up your own tab for long term health care.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:02 AM   #12
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Be careful what you wish for...

Somehow I think this whole helmetless thing ends up with lots of life and health insurance costs for all of us. Maybe even restrictions. When I say costs, I mean insurance companies invent a surcharge for motorcyclists or drop us all together regardless of helmet use.

Some insurance companies will not insure motorcycle racers now. It's not a big leap to exclude for all motorcyclists. Then what?
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:23 AM   #13
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Somehow I think this whole helmetless thing ends up with lots of life and health insurance costs for all of us. Maybe even restrictions. When I say costs, I mean insurance companies invent a surcharge for motorcyclists or drop us all together regardless of helmet use.

Some insurance companies will not insure motorcycle racers now. It's not a big leap to exclude for all motorcyclists. Then what?
Yes, but in making your argument, you have just stumbled upon the slippery slope of helmet laws. If wearing a helmet is safer and results in lower insurance for all, then all should be required to wear helmets, right? Well, if we can prove that wearing armored gear also results in fewer injuries and lower insurance claims, then ATGATT should be mandatory as well, right? Well, if that is safer, can't we also demonstrate that not riding at all is safer than driving in a car?

What I consider stupid is not something I will advocate as legislation. I consider anybody who doesn't wear ATGATT to be willfully endangering themselves and honestly, stupid. There is a significant portion of the population that views any rider, regardless of gear to be willfully endangering themselves and stupid. I will not impose my view of safety on you because I don't want others to have that same power over me.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #14
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It sure would be nice if I could ride to my neighbors without worrying about getting a ticket, it is only 30 yards down the road. Every where else I don't care what the law is the helmet is on.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:26 AM   #15
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Some insurance companies will not insure motorcycle racers now. It's not a big leap to exclude for all motorcyclists. Then what?
If there's money to be made insuring riders, then somebody will do it.

If there's not money to be made insuring riders, then I don't blame companies for not doing it.

Most states allow the vehicle operator to self-insure with a surety bond or similar, so even without an insurance company that would be an option.
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