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Old 04-23-2012, 04:11 PM   #76
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It looks a little to technical for the old 1150gs, or at least a little above my pay grade
"Do-able" but not really enjoyable I would think on anything bigger. A nice 450 with some soft luggage would be perfect here IMO.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:41 PM   #77
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DAY 3 - Cont

Crossing the Rio Urique

OK...well I guess I'll tell the story of crossing the Rio Urique. After scoping it out...here's Dan going first. No problem.


Then...here goes Monte. No problem.


Then...here I go. I've only done a few water crossings on a big bike and I have to admit I was tired, extremely dehydrated and a little intimidated. But...WTF...those guys did it...so here I go! All part of the adventure...right!


Then...about halfway across I hit a rock and it makes me move off the main path and into some deeper water. Fortunately I didn't dump the bike...but thought it was best to get some help so we're not dealing with flooded cylinders.


So Dan and Monte flip a coin to see who has to get their boots wet...and Monte lost.


Getting the water out of the old boots...


We were all extremely dehydrated so it was time to find a hotel and relax. Hotel Rio Estrella came recommended. Large rooms for NP$400 with secured parking.
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:21 PM   #78
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its all good

I really didn't mind going back in the river.. And, you had a good save when the boulder pushed you off coarse, so it was win win.
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:56 PM   #79
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He's got it....uh...nope...uh...maybe...

Yep, the water felt so good I wasn't too bothered by going first and maybe dropping it. From the far side of the river the conversation went a little like this as John crossed...(all in quiet mono-tone as we knew he couldn't hear us)
Monte: Here he goes...
Me (with camera): Got it.
Monte: Looking good...
Me: Little more speed John...
Monte: Uh-oh. Where you going John...
Me: Damn, not good...
Monte: No John, this way, this way...
Me: Ah shit, this ain't good...
Monte: Thats mud over there, this way, this way... crap
Me: I think he's going down...shit I forgot to remind him to hit the kill if it goes over...
Monte: Not good..not good...
Me: He stalled... oh shit...dont fall over...
Monte: Back this way man...
Me: Play ya rock, paper, scissors to see who goes in for him? My boots are waterproof and will never dry out.
Monte: I'll go, you take pictures in case this goes bad....


Monte conducting recovery operations...



This might have been sweat after that days ride...



Actually I just wanted to go first because I knew they didn't have cameras ready if I bit it.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:50 PM   #80
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Day 3

More Urique

Got settled into our hotel and I proceeded to drink several cold sodas and about a liter of water. My shirt was soaked with sweat. Check it out. It was 108 degrees that day and I was seriously dehydrated. I thought I was drinking a lot but apparently I wasn't.


View from our hotel balcony.


There's a few interesting buildings in Urique. The people stay indoors during the day and everybody roams around as soon as the sun goes down. Kids playing soccer in the streets...parents all sitting ouside their front door.


Went to the only restaurant in town...La Playa. It's owned by the same people who run the Hotel Estrella Del Rio. They also owned the main market in town as well.
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:38 PM   #81
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Youtube will probably mute it, but I will edit the music file so there is no copyright bs tomorrow. Tired and out of beer.
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Old 04-24-2012, 05:35 PM   #82
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The resturant La Playa served up some pretty good grub. Personally I like placing my order then having time for a few beers while they make your meal fresh. Good stuff!




Ok, this was in the top 5 hottest salsa I have had. It had a great smoky flavor, but damn it was HOT!!!




John said we had missed the marathon by about 2 weeks. The only run we were in shape for was a beer run. Amazing people down here thou. Never once felt unwelcome or "worried". Good stuff.

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Old 04-24-2012, 06:12 PM   #83
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Youtube will probably mute it, but I will edit the music file so there is no copyright bs tomorrow. Tired and out of beer.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO! Real proof of what the road really does look like riding along the canyon. I am going to link in my RR so folks get the full picture, even if it was not me!
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:35 PM   #84
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THANKS FOR THE VIDEO! Real proof of what the road really does look like riding along the canyon. I am going to link in my RR so folks get the full picture, even if it was not me!

Have at it! I just figured it would be a great When Vacations Attack video when Monte clipped my handlebar and sent my over the edge.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:44 PM   #85
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Urique Business

One more story about Urique before we move on. We were eating dinner at Restaurant La Playa and a local guy came over and started a conversation with us. He used to be an English teacher in Chihuahua and was very friendly. After some small talk I asked him "what do these guys behind you do for a living in Urique." I was expecting him to say "they are ranchers" but he said they make their money growing "maryjane and poppies." He said the drug dealers showed up at the beginning of the growing season and gave them the seeds and told them they'll get NP$700 pesos for a kilo of pot and NP$1500 pesos for a kilo of raw opium. But...when harvest came the dealers only offered half that and nobody sold. So now they're all holding onto their goods until the price gets better. He wasn't sure how this one was going to play out but he mentioned last year the drug dealers killed the mayor and some other city officials.

I don't want to scare anyone from coming here. Everbody was nice and if you mind your own business you should be fine.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:14 PM   #86
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DAY 4 - Urique to El Fuerte

DAY 4 - Urique to El Fuerte (138 miles total)

I felt much better in the morning and was ready to ride. Got breakfast at our favorite restaurant (the only restaurant) and went looking for some gas. Turns out the Tarahumara Indian Marathon two weeks before sucked up all the gas in town and there was none to be had. Oh shit. The son of the hotel owner (see picture) told us there is gas up top at Mesa de Arturo...so off we rode.


The ride was incredible! The road was a better than the "NEW" road so you could enjoy the spectacular views.


Looking back towards Urique.


The road zig-zags up the side of the cliff for 10 miles to a government built view point.


Its another 8 miles to Mesa de Arturo. After a little searching we found the gas man.


Not sure what he was charging us but after a little creative math we agreed on a price. The bonus...he was babysitting his twin grand kids.


They were the cutest little kids.


Dan gave them a stick of gum and he had to show them how to eat it as they had never seen gum before.


Fill'er up.


The kids let me into their house while grandpa filled the bikes. They use this stove for cooking and heat.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:43 PM   #87
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Great video and pics

What a great road in your video. Nice to be "on the edge" but with a very good surface to ride on. On the Video who is the band playing? My first intrigue with Copper Canyon started a few years ago when I got a book for Christmas called "Born to Run". I hate running, always have always will but this is a great book about some super athletes, a mystical ex-pat and the awkward mix of american commercialism and a love of running by the Tarahumara. I'll have to get down there before it's all asphalt or all Zeta.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:07 PM   #88
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Thanks. It's one of those places that as soon as you get home from it, you're thinking when the next time you can get back down there.

The song is "Have a Drink on Me" by AC/DC off of Back in Black (1980).
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:21 PM   #89
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Gas Quality?

How did the gas you bought hold up? I bought 20 liters (about 4 gal) in Ceracahui and did the ride up to Mesa de Arturo, down to Urique and then up and over to Batopilas and was out of gas. It was only 50 miles and I burned over 4 gallons of the "gas" in that 1 day. So I think 12 miles to the gallon, and yes it was up hill but also downhill....
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:50 PM   #90
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How did the gas you bought hold up?
On a related point--how much range is needed for this trip through the canyon? I'm planning my ride for next year.
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