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Old 04-19-2012, 05:32 PM   #31
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The Kawasaki KE100 weighs an honest 200lbs .



Them are fun little bikes. I know of one for sale in Phoenix if anyone is looking.
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:26 PM   #32
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Looks like the latest issue of Dirt Rider Magazine, named the 2012 KTM500EXC, and 350EXC, there pick for bike
of the year. I ride with a guy who rides a 2012 350EXC, and that bike rips in the desert just fine. He can climb some
large gnarly sand hills no problem on that bike. Lot a good stuff about the 500. Some are saying a little too much power. I owned a 08 530, and that bike was an awsome plated machine, could not imagine the new 500.
The 500 is an arm stretcher for sure. The stock gearing is on the tall side which tames it a bit and gives it pretty good road manners. New sprockets are pretty inexpensive to re-gear it.
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Old 04-19-2012, 06:40 PM   #33
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Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
The one thing keeping the XT225 from being a true ultralight is the steel swingarm. If that was aluminum it would be great.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:33 PM   #34
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What's the heaviest do you reckon?
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:40 PM   #35
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KLR-650

Filled with luggage and 6 gallons of fuel, don't drop...
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:08 AM   #36
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Big GS or big KTM, obviously not singles though.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:30 AM   #37
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So, what's the point of this enquiry?

I understand what you are asking, but is it purely for bar trivia? Or what?

The list of bikes you have compiled in your first post couldn't possibly be more different. The XT may be lighter then the 500EXC, but the difference is purely academic at best, because the XT is a dog compared to the KTM. And the KTM is a high-maintenance bitch compared to the WRR.

Weight alone is a very small part of the equation when picking a bike.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:59 AM   #38
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KLR-650

Filled with luggage and 6 gallons of fuel, don't drop...
I will 2rd that
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:01 AM   #39
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As said, the current 350 and 500 EXC's are 50 state street legal. Various 450 to 530 EXC models have been starting in 2007.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:06 AM   #40
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So, what's the point of this enquiry?

I understand what you are asking, but is it purely for bar trivia? Or what?

The list of bikes you have compiled in your first post couldn't possibly be more different. The XT may be lighter then the 500EXC, but the difference is purely academic at best, because the XT is a dog compared to the KTM. And the KTM is a high-maintenance bitch compared to the WRR.

Weight alone is a very small part of the equation when picking a bike.

I love my high-maintenance bitch!!!
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:18 AM   #41
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Are those claimed or owner weighed numbers?

I think that XT225 is closer to the 250lbs of the DR200. Those bikes are as close as any two others could be. I'd not be surprised if they weighed more than the KTM 450EXC when wet/ready to ride either.
My wife's DR 200 is the same as my 450EXC weighed with a bathroom scale.
Not quite as powerful.
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Old 11-09-2013, 05:20 AM   #42
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I love my high-maintenance bitch!!!
No doubt!

And you get a hell of a lot of performance in trade.

Before the kool-aide drinkers try to lynch me, that statement was made in comparison to the WRR, and was made purely for the purpose of illustrating my point. I am a (semi)reformed kool-aider, having owned and loved an SMC for many years.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:07 AM   #43
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So, what's the point of this enquiry?

I understand what you are asking, but is it purely for bar trivia? Or what?

The list of bikes you have compiled in your first post couldn't possibly be more different. The XT may be lighter then the 500EXC, but the difference is purely academic at best, because the XT is a dog compared to the KTM. And the KTM is a high-maintenance bitch compared to the WRR.

Weight alone is a very small part of the equation when picking a bike.
Ktm's are anything but a high maintenance bike. I suppose if people really dislike cleaning two oil screens they could get a porky WR instead, but hardly seems a real reason.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:23 AM   #44
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Ktm's are anything but a high maintenance bike. I suppose if people really dislike cleaning two oil screens they could get a porky WR instead, but hardly seems a real reason.

*sippin kool-aide*

Not trying to start an argument, but what's the recommended oil change interval? 10-15 hours? And how often does it call for a valve adjustment? Compared to how many thousands of miles for an oil change and 26k miles for the valves.

Hell, there was a Baja RR where the guys rode new 500's and had to do like 3 oil changes.

Sorry, but compared to a WRR, that is high (frequency) maintenance.

Both are great bikes (as is the XT) for their intended uses. That's why a strict weight comparison is pretty useless for anything other then a purely academic argument. Which was my point to begin with.
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Old 11-09-2013, 07:31 AM   #45
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*sippin kool-aide*

Not trying to start an argument, but what's the recommended oil change interval? 10-15 hours? And how often does it call for a valve adjustment? Compared to how many thousands of miles for an oil change and 26k miles for the valves.

Hell, there was a Baja RR where the guys rode new 500's and had to do like 3 oil changes.

Sorry, but compared to a WRR, that is high (frequency) maintenance.

Both are great bikes (as is the XT) for their intended uses. That's why a strict weight comparison is pretty useless for anything other then a purely academic argument. Which was my point to begin with.

I have read of a single 500 motor that someone changed a shim in. Most friends I race with never touch a valve for 2 years, they just don't need it. My previous 530 had 170+ hours without a valve needing to be changed.

Not familiar with the wrr and how much oil it holds, but 450 singles can't hold enough oil to NOT have more frequent oil changes.

I suppose it's all perspective. If someone doesn't want to change oil for a year vs a couple times a year, get something they are told doesn't need an oil change for a year. Anything with around 1.5 quarts of oil is going to have similar schedules, even my 690 uses less than 2 quarts.

...still, calling ktm's high maintenance seems ridiculous to me, but I've only had 5 of them. I don't drink any cool-aid, I just buy a bike for a purpose, and it seems that every time ktm builds a bike better suited to my purposes than other makers, and I've owned Japanese dirtbikes before. I do wish they were cheaper, riding a 15k dollar dirtbike does seem a bit foolish.
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