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Old 07-21-2013, 03:47 PM   #1
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PHDS progressive handlebar damping system

Anyone fitted these after riding the bike first?

I'm getting a buzz through the bars making my hands go numb after a few hours.

They claim;
Further benefits of the PHDS:
- Absorption of vibration from chassis and engine

Question is; do they work as claimed?

http://shop.ktm.com/au_en/powerparts...ng-system.html
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:06 PM   #2
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Have them on my 690

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Anyone fitted these after riding
I'm getting a buzz through the bars making my hands go numb after a few hours.

They claim;
Further benefits of the PHDS:
- Absorption of vibration from chassis and engine

Question is; do they work as claimed?

http://shop.ktm.com/au_en/powerparts...ng-system.html
They provide a noticeable difference but not earth shattering.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:13 PM   #3
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This might sound funny, but it costs next to nothing. I just made the switch from riding Harleys to dirtbikes 3 years ago, and my friend talked me into buying a CR500 as my first dirtbike, and Im sure you know how much those things vibrate. I recalled a lot of custom bike builders saying that they fill the handlebars of custom choppers with RTV to dampen the vibration, so I went to Lowe's and bought the cheapest, most dense tube of caulk that I could find, about 4 bucks, thinking I'd give it a shot. Filled the bars of the CR with it, and it made a big difference. Give it some thought once you're done laughing.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:36 PM   #4
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I tried PHDS with the softer green cushions/elastomers on a SE. It did help some. However, handlebar weights and foam grips helped more. If foam grips are too soft, try foam grip covers over dual sport grips. Also, try relaxing your grip . . . Especially, your two outside fingers.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:50 PM   #5
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I was skeptical at first look, but the guy who makes Vibranators convinced me to try a pair. He spent a few minutes helping me come up with the right combination to work with handguards, as he didn't offer a specific model for handguard equipped bikes. Looks like he does now. Might give him a call:

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Took me all of about 20 miles to consider myself sold.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:59 AM   #6
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Thanks for all the feedback. Some good info there.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:10 PM   #7
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Anyone fitted these after riding the bike first?

I'm getting a buzz through the bars making my hands go numb after a few hours.

They claim;
Further benefits of the PHDS:
- Absorption of vibration from chassis and engine

Question is; do they work as claimed?
Have a set on my 450XCW that I ride almost exclusively on-road. Put about 10,000 miles on it so far and the longest day in the saddle was about 550 miles, but 150-300 miles is more typical. Vibration hasn't really been an issue for me with this combination, and my hands used to go numb on my 250F after about 100-150 miles. Honestly don't think the handlebar perches have much to do with it though. Most of the racers I've talked to who run them like they way they help soften/absorb those abrupt square-edge hits. But their design is not very good when it comes to isolating vibration because it doesn't eliminate direct metal-to-metal contact. Vibes flow right through these things. Think this particular bike is just smooth enough that it doesn't get to my hands. Haven't ridden it enough with regular perches to confirm, but have a set I can throw on there to see. Wouldn't buy another pair though. Think BRP's solution is a much better approach. Only downside to that I'm aware of is that it limits how much you can slide the fork tubes up in the tripleclamps on some applications.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:23 PM   #8
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Anybody seen or tried these?

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Old 11-13-2014, 06:42 AM   #9
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This might sound funny, but it costs next to nothing. I just made the switch from riding Harleys to dirtbikes 3 years ago, and my friend talked me into buying a CR500 as my first dirtbike, and Im sure you know how much those things vibrate. I recalled a lot of custom bike builders saying that they fill the handlebars of custom choppers with RTV to dampen the vibration, so I went to Lowe's and bought the cheapest, most dense tube of caulk that I could find, about 4 bucks, thinking I'd give it a shot. Filled the bars of the CR with it, and it made a big difference. Give it some thought once you're done laughing.
I tried this on my 990 and was amazed the difference it made. I used to have to bash my hand on my knee after only 30 minutes, now I can ride all day without any numbness.
Take off switchgear and wrap tape around the locating holes in the bars, remove handguards, pump bathroom sealer from one side until it appears at other side. Dig out the ends to leave space for handguard mounts, reassemble.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:38 AM   #10
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I gotta try this. I have the Vibranators in my bike, and while it's better, there's still room for improvement.

I'm on kidney dialysis and have a circulation problem primarily in my left hand, the access arm. It's a nerve thing and not uncommon. Vibration isn't really causing the numbness, but it does hasten it along.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:20 AM   #11
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I had the KTM PowerParts PDHS mounts installed in my bike (1190 Adventure ESA) maybe two months ago and I am happy with the results.
Lacking some better words to explain the difference I'd say riding the bike is more 'natural' and easy/intuitive now. Highly recommended.
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:01 PM   #12
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I have owned a couple of 450SXS which came with PHDS as standard. When I swapped with a buddies bike I realised how well the PHDS cushioned my wrists from impacts.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:23 PM   #13
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The PHDS handlebar system cost $285 here in Australia..
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Old 11-14-2014, 04:07 AM   #14
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Mine relieved my wallet of some EUR220,00...
Not a cheap farkle, on the contrary. It is worth the cost, though.
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Old 11-14-2014, 04:21 AM   #15
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The BRP set up and it's fantastic
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