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Old 12-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #1816
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Ref pricing; rather than trying to guess the price by the jump in proportion of the increase from the old model, I think it would be more accurate to gauge as a percentage to its competition. This should be fairly accurate from country to country. Ie. if 10% cheaper than the GS in the UK Then prob 10% cheaper in USA....

For me, it's priced 10% (approx) cheaper than a Multi, so is about right....
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:00 PM   #1817
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Yea, The Falco was one of the coolest bikes Aprilia built. Dont let that go!
It is a great bike, I love my Falco. 'Italian' twin; however, powered and fantastic sound from a Rotax engine, made in Austria no less. Never had any issues with the engine (touch wood).....the electrics on the other hand, not made in Austria.....!
With my 450 EXC and new 1190 on the way I'll have 2.5 bikes made in Austria. Wouldn't have predicted that 2 years ago. The money from the Falco sale was going to help me spec up my 1190 but maybe you are right, keep the Falco and save up for the rest of the optionals. There really is no such thing as too many bikes or too much power.

Hats off to the Austrians, I'm a fan having only ever owned Triumphs before 2 years ago, pound for pound the 450 EXC is the best motorbike I have ever owned - hoping the 1190 will be even better.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:10 PM   #1818
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Hehe. Even compared to norway, denmark is expensive regarding car/mc.

I'm 400.000(70.000$) before tax this year. With a rough tax(40%)estimate i end up with 240.000(42.000$) for my living. So even with the whole salary i wouldn't be able to pay the bike in denmark(290.000,-). This is ofcourse absolute rough estimates but bikes and cars are crazy expensive in denmark.
That's just ridiculous. 300,000 for a bike? I don't want to start a political argument, but that's just wrong.

I'd move.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:11 PM   #1819
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Hehe. Even compared to norway, denmark is expensive regarding car/mc.

I'm 400.000(70.000$) before tax this year. With a rough tax(40%)estimate i end up with 240.000(42.000$) for my living. So even with the whole salary i wouldn't be able to pay the bike in denmark(290.000,-). This is ofcourse absolute rough estimates but bikes and cars are crazy expensive in denmark.
Dude, I feel for you. No USA price yet but I would estimate that most Americans on this forum could buy 2 or 3 bikes from their annual after-tax salary, and maybe 10% of them 4 or more. I think I just got a great justification to go for it.

When I was growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, it cost my mother's 3 year salary to get a new shitbox called Skoda, My estimate is that her salary for an equivalent job in USA today would be around $50,000 a year. That's why to this day neither of my parents ever owned, or even driven a car.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:55 PM   #1820
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Dude, I feel for you. No USA price yet but I would estimate that most Americans on this forum could buy 2 or 3 bikes from their annual after-tax salary, and maybe 10% of them 4 or more. I think I just got a great justification to go for it.

When I was growing up in communist Czechoslovakia, it cost my mother's 3 year salary to get a new shitbox called Skoda, My estimate is that her salary for an equivalent job in USA today would be around $50,000 a year. That's why to this day neither of my parents ever owned, or even driven a car.
And yet, everytime you turn around some preppy dickhead who went to college on loans paid for by WORKING PEOPLE is telling all of us that we need to be more like "Europe".


It makes me sick.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:55 PM   #1821
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Dose anyone have a link to photos of the bike with the body work ?
I interested in the general layout of the beast.

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Old 12-01-2012, 05:39 PM   #1822
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http://www.ktm.com/travel/1190-adven...l#.ULpS4obNkYL

http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-...ery/89353.html

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Old 12-02-2012, 04:07 PM   #1823
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Sadly what I've been told by someone higher up at KTM is the 1190s won't be at any of the North American shows.

"It's just too early to show it since it doesn't come out until this time next year since it still has to go through all the testing/DOT stuff etc".

I certainly hope they change their minds...keeping my fingers crossed anyhow.

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Dallas, Atlanta and San Mateo already happened! Can anyone confirm the 1190 being or not being there????
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:17 PM   #1824
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TCN, do not sell the Falco ! Agreed that the electrics weren't the best, but I sold mine to get a Multi and i kick myself every day - one of the finest road bikes ever in my opinion, certainly the nicest I've owned.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:38 PM   #1825
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Dallas, Atlanta and San Mateo already happened! Can anyone confirm the 1190 being or not being there????
It was not in Dallas.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:56 PM   #1826
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Dallas, Atlanta and San Mateo already happened! Can anyone confirm the 1190 being or not being there????
Sorry, NO KTM action at the Atlanta show, but looking forward to February! Hope our European brothers write often and take tons of pictures!!! Please!
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:38 PM   #1827
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:53 PM   #1828
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Guess I won't waste my time going to Long Beach!
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:38 AM   #1829
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Sorry, NO KTM action at the Atlanta show, but looking forward to February! Hope our European brothers write often and take tons of pictures!!! Please!
European press and dealer launch in mid February .............bikes in dealers immediately afterwards
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:21 AM   #1830
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On the KTM Germany site you can price out your dream 1190.

Base models come in a little more expensive than the 990's they are replacing but even optioned to the max, they are still somewhere between "cheaper" and "waaaay cheaper" than an R1200GS or Multistrada. And don't forget, the comparison to the GS is the old air cooled boxer; I doubt BMW will be selling the 1250 for less than the outgoing model.

Yes, the KTM is more expensive than a lot would like, and also has a lot more electronics than many want on their bikes. But for me, the more I look at them the more I like them. For the riding I am mostly forced to do (to and from work on the Autobahn) these are most definitely far better machines than the 990 I am currently riding. Luckily for me and my bank account, I do not consider life with the my 07 990 to be a hardship. If I never ride a better bike than the 990, I am OK with that because it continues to be the most fun bike I have owned or ridden and one that paints a shit-eating grin on my face ever time I saddle up.

As an aside, even though I admit the new 1190 might be more functional (key word: turbulence) for the riding myself and possibly most do, even if they don't like to admit it, I still prefer the look of the 990 with it's clear rally heritage. It personifies KTM for me and I hope there will always be something in their line-up that shows their old pedigree.
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