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Old 03-10-2013, 02:45 PM   #2446
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Hmmm... If true, that's rather disappointing. Bike electrical systems, auxiliary lighting, heated gear, GPS; there won't be much to spare.
450w is the same output as the 990 Adventure is. Don't forget that on the 1190 the dip beam goes out in daylight and you just have the LED lights around the headlamp on - saving 50w or so.
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:57 PM   #2447
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450w is the same output as the 990 Adventure is. Don't forget that on the 1190 the dip beam goes out in daylight and you just have the LED lights around the headlamp on - saving 50w or so.
I wonder if that will be the case on the US spec bike..?

Regardless, I guess my point is that for all the 1190's up-spec'd whizz-bangetry, this is one spec that (again, if true..) puts it at the bottom of the maxi-class adventure tourers:

Triumph Explorer - 950W
BMW R1200GS - 720W
Yamaha Super Tenere: 600W
Moto Guzzi Stelvio: 550W

I'm mean really, KTM couldn't even beat MG..?
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:30 PM   #2448
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I only can say that i felt in love. Looking to change my R 1200 GSA for one 1190 adventure And go for a RTW trip next year.... Sweet dreams.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:39 PM   #2449
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Hmmm... If true, that's rather disappointing. Bike electrical systems, auxiliary lighting, heated gear, GPS; there won't be much to spare.
Heated gear on a KTM? How much does a GPS draw? Not much I'm thinking.
Aux light is probably LED anyways so ~50W max. for 2 lights.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:59 PM   #2450
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I will experience it in a few days, but can't stop myself from wondering; does the engine temperature increases at the longer red light or traffic jam stops. I remember having my 990, pulled aside for long minutes for seeing the red temperature warning light coming on, during warm days in the traffic.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:38 PM   #2451
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BMW R1200GS - 720W
The new modell is down to 580W. Obviously modern bikes don´t need that much.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:37 AM   #2452
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I

Triumph Explorer - 950W
BMW R1200GS - 720W
Yamaha Super Tenere: 600W
Moto Guzzi Stelvio: 550W

I'm mean really, KTM couldn't even beat MG..?
Or Aprilia, the new Caponord 1200 is rated at 650W, but it also has incandescent lighting on both dip and high beams to deal with, and the servo system on the Skyhook as well.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:18 AM   #2453
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Heated gear on a KTM? How much does a GPS draw? Not much I'm thinking.
Aux light is probably LED anyways so ~50W max. for 2 lights.
Heated grips and separate heated seats for driver and pillion as optional extras
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:06 AM   #2454
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:32 AM   #2455
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:57 AM   #2456
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I have a '08 1200GS that I was ready to replace with a 2013 water cooled. This was going to be a no brainer decision for me. But I am completely intriged with this KTM. I really can't wait to see & ride one.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:27 AM   #2457
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Heated gear on a KTM?
Is that a sin..? Jacket: 77W + Gloves: 27W = 104W Max

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How much does a GPS draw? Not much I'm thinking.
Correct; 5W - 10W Max depending on model, screen brightness settings, etc.

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Aux light is probably LED anyways so ~50W max. for 2 lights.
70W Max for a set of Clearwater Lights' "Krista".

So with just the above, I'm at ~184W Max excluding any other accessories. (I'd also likely add heated grips which is another 30W - 40W Max.)
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:34 AM   #2458
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Is that a sin..? Jacket: 77W + Gloves: 27W = 104W Max



Correct; 5W - 10W Max depending on model, screen brightness settings, etc.



70W Max for a set of Clearwater Lights' "Krista".

So with just the above, I'm at ~184W Max excluding any other accessories. (I'd also likely add heated grips which is another 30W - 40W Max.)

I'm thinking that if you put as much energy into thinking of ways to utilize/maximize the current electrical output and the accessories that you put onto the bike as you are putting into bagging on the rated wattage everything would work out fine.

True this is more of a GS type bike which will lend itself to more heated stuff and lights, but I've never heard of a 950/990 running out of juice. Have you?
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:08 AM   #2459
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I'm thinking that if you put as much energy into thinking of ways to utilize/maximize the current electrical output and the accessories that you put onto the bike as you are putting into bagging on the rated wattage everything would work out fine.

True this is more of a GS type bike which will lend itself to more heated stuff and lights, but I've never heard of a 950/990 running out of juice. Have you?
I've never owned a KTM and don't personally know anyone that owns a 950 or 990, so I can't really answer that question. But I have worked on enough electrical systems of sport and sport-touring bikes over the years to know when to raise an eyebrow and why. Will this keep me from buying one when they come to the US? Absolutely not (though price might. We'll see...). Again, I'm not bagging on the bike at all, I'm just pointing out that this one particular spec stands out as being surprisingly low vs. where its closest competitors are.
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Old 03-11-2013, 11:23 AM   #2460
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regaring fuel consumption I have to clarifiy a couple of points.

the comuter is accured beause, I refilled the bike after the ride, the figure were something like 260 km and less then 16 lt.

as with most bikes the driving style is important, with the 1190 when driving italian winding roads, I rearly went over 5000 rev. by driving this thing between 2000 and 5000 rev. you get a fantastic kick and you go f...ing fast too.
it very different from the 990 where I used tu drive it at much higher rev., also because on slow rev. it isn't as smoth.
I guess that on more open and large roads (wiithout speed limit issues) the consuption would increase a significatelly.
Thanks for the updates! Much appreciated.

Quick question for you. How is the low-end torque of the motor? My biggest concern is by taking the RC8 motor and modifying it, they would have a very free-reving motor that spins up fast and revs to the moon, but lacks the real low-end grunt for those times when you need every bit of traction for climbing slippery tracks.

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