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Old 05-25-2013, 05:57 AM   #3271
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Ok a teaser from me only upgrade is boxes and crash bars! Also electronic package

Why you look so sad? You're on a new KTM!!
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Old 05-25-2013, 07:18 AM   #3272
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Why you look so sad? You're on a new KTM!!
No no I wasn't sad:) not good with photos sometimes . It's a fantastic bike so far only done 170 miles.

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Old 05-25-2013, 04:32 PM   #3273
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Old 05-26-2013, 03:34 AM   #3274
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Old 05-26-2013, 09:01 AM   #3275
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what are the tires you have on?
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Old 05-26-2013, 09:28 AM   #3276
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I tested the 1190R yesterday, just a short spin in the city and being veeeery careful since it was a 11km old bike, with no insurance, and it belongs to my mechanic. You don't want to break the bike of the man who takes care of yours, right?

BTW, I have a 07 990, I do lots of off road but usually they are easy trails and I guess you can rate me as an average pilot. I try to go fast thought...

I agree with all that have been said about the 1190: lots of torque, a lovely and smooth gearbox which makes look mine as ... agricultural, and very smooth power delivery. To me the fueling is just perfect. Period. My 990 behaves as a 2 stroke in comparison and I can definitely say that this 1190R is easier to ride than mine.

But it's not perfect...specially if you come from a 990 and you love the 9X0 seating position: in the 1190 you are seated back, more over the rear wheel and you don't put your weight over the front wheel as the 990 forces you to do.
While I don't know if this is a bad thing, I felt the 990 was more confidence inspiring (but of course I'm use to its position) and I have my doubts about how they compare off road, when sometimes you want to be able of loading the front. Being able of putting my weight over the front wheel is absolutely necessary to me if I want to (or try to) ride fast off road.
So this new bike left me with a kind of "I don't know" feeling. Sure, it's a great bike but I would need more test time to be sure it worth the money: I could sell my 990 for half the price of a new 1190, is the 1190 twice better? at this moment I'm not that sure
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:47 AM   #3277
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what are the tires you have on?
Mitas E-07 Dual sport.
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:02 AM   #3278
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Mitas E-07 Dual sport.
Thanks! Are they M+S (Mud & Snow) tires?
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:20 AM   #3279
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btw, I have a "rear light-immobilizer" blink glitch also on my bike. meaning switching the bike off the rear light blinks after 1 minute instead of the red bulb or whatever on the dash
and in comparison with the bike I was running in for my dealer I noticed that I also have a glitch "Driving Mod" written on computer instead of "Driving Mode" - just being perfectionist not PITA
I will ask to check the SW version when I will be changing oil after 1000km
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:25 AM   #3280
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Thanks! Are they M+S (Mud & Snow) tires?
since they are produced in Czech Rep., they are pretty popular over here.
as far as I remember they are not rated M+S
but to be sure I can check in my garage later today if I have somewhere a tire or few left and see if it got a M+S symbol
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Old 05-27-2013, 07:03 AM   #3281
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So, read this entire thread and if this info was there, I've missed it.

I've read about the dirt worthyness of the bike, compariable or better than the 990 (I have a 990 S) and I've read about the canyon carving it will do.

But what about long, multi day trips, loaded and 2 up?? Especially with a little gravel, good forest roads mixed in there??

As much as I love my 990 and what it will do well, what it doesnt do well is keep us comfey on long rides. After a couple of days, we're wore out and ready to get off. I realize everything is a trade off, and if the bike were a better 2up traveler, it would'nt be as good off road when 1up and unloaded.

So, how does the 1190 compare to the 990 up those long 2up trips??

How does it compare to a GS for long 2up trips???

What I'm not asking here is a GS vs KTM bash....
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:19 PM   #3282
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So, read this entire thread and if this info was there, I've missed it.

I've read about the dirt worthyness of the bike, compariable or better than the 990 (I have a 990 S) and I've read about the canyon carving it will do.

But what about long, multi day trips, loaded and 2 up?? Especially with a little gravel, good forest roads mixed in there??

As much as I love my 990 and what it will do well, what it doesnt do well is keep us comfey on long rides. After a couple of days, we're wore out and ready to get off. I realize everything is a trade off, and if the bike were a better 2up traveler, it would'nt be as good off road when 1up and unloaded.

So, how does the 1190 compare to the 990 up those long 2up trips??

How does it compare to a GS for long 2up trips???

What I'm not asking here is a GS vs KTM bash....
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:50 PM   #3283
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While I don't know if this is a bad thing, I felt the 990 was more confidence inspiring (but of course I'm use to its position) and I have my doubts about how they compare off road, when sometimes you want to be able of loading the front. Being able of putting my weight over the front wheel is absolutely necessary to me if I want to (or try to) ride fast off road.
I don't know about the 990 vs 1190 in terms of front wheel weight. But what I can say to you is that I learned to ride on dirt, and my preference has always been to un-weight the front wheel. On sand, I roll on the throttle to un-weight the front as much as rear traction allows. On curves, once bike starts turning, I roll on the throttle which un-weights the front and lets the rear wheel assist with steering. And at maximum speed on dirt, weight on back helps with traction or max speed won't be much more than 100 mph.

I want weight on the front for braking purposes (front brake), and that is on a straight position, and a gradual start of braking will transfer weight to the front.

Conversely, if the road is really bumpy and with whoops, you stand up. That usually brings weight to the front wheel. So if you are riding on dirt and want weight on the front, stand up, it will help. I'm lazy and will only stand up if really needed.

I think riding style is about preference and how confident you feel. So disregard my comments if they do not apply to you. Just wanted to contribute a different view to weights on front.
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:41 PM   #3284
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So, read this entire thread and if this info was there, I've missed it.

I've read about the dirt worthyness of the bike, compariable or better than the 990 (I have a 990 S) and I've read about the canyon carving it will do.

But what about long, multi day trips, loaded and 2 up?? Especially with a little gravel, good forest roads mixed in there??

As much as I love my 990 and what it will do well, what it doesnt do well is keep us comfey on long rides. After a couple of days, we're wore out and ready to get off. I realize everything is a trade off, and if the bike were a better 2up traveler, it would'nt be as good off road when 1up and unloaded.

So, how does the 1190 compare to the 990 up those long 2up trips??

How does it compare to a GS for long 2up trips???

What I'm not asking here is a GS vs KTM bash....
The bike is really good two up you can't even compare the power and the ride quality with 990 . The bike pulls very well 90 mph cruising two up with luggage doesn't feel difficult . It's not very very comfortable seat but still you can upgrade that. Wind protecting and engine vibration is far too better then 990 and the bike really handles a lot better in speed over 80 mph . I think GS got a lot better seat and wind protection and also cruise control which is fantastic but it doesn't gives the fun of the ktm. It actually will spend lest fuel then 990 in long trips.

So definitely 1190 adventure will be a good upgrade for two up ,not sure about the adventurer on road too much, but people say it's fantastic and I believe it .

Both bikes are capable of off road! But the adventurer specialise at off road.
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:21 AM   #3285
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Thanks! Are they M+S (Mud & Snow) tires?
Hi Igorpetrovich,
I'm not sure!... To be honest I dont know about that. That is writing on the tyre?
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