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Old 08-01-2013, 06:53 AM   #3796
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Yeah I've heard that from people who rebuild performance car engines, they will run them on the dyno for like 10 hours of all different rpm ranges but give them runs of full throttle..

The corvette engines were tested on full throttle for 24 hours to make sure they dont break before putting them in the cars, Gen 4's or something.. My project manager trainer used to work for GM told me that.
We visited the KTM Factory in Mattighofen this spring (scroll to "Factory Tour" at top of page) while on our long ride and, while there, were treated to a turn through the engine plant where they were, then, making the 1190 motors. Those engines were, almost immediately (most within less than an hour of being built) run on a dyno, some of that time at VERY high RPM's. It was quite an elaborate booth where all fluid dynamics were carefully measured and recorded. We discussed this (break in) issue with our tour guide; a young mostly marketing guy, but who, like nearly all KTM employees, was definitely a moto man. He said, probably not to be quoted, that some of the recommendations in the manual (s) were more to satisfy the corporate attorneys than anything else and that the engines required some "hard run-in time" if they were to be brought to their potential. This, unfortunately, was after our own experience was pretty much over and our bike's engine had now, finally, stopped using oil. In our defense (if we need any), for the first three weeks of our tour it was (mostly) raining and very cold (ice and snow) so we really didn't have much opportunity to "let the bike out" much at all until we'd ridden for nearly a month.
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Old 08-01-2013, 08:42 AM   #3797
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1190 Adventure or Adventure R

Hi All

So my question is, which bike would you buy the Adventure or the Adventure "R"
Will be doing 80% road and 20% dirt for now.
I also have a Kawasaki concours 1400

I need help deciding

thanks
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:19 AM   #3798
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Hi All

So my question is, which bike would you buy the Adventure or the Adventure "R"
Will be doing 80% road and 20% dirt for now.
I also have a Kawasaki concours 1400

I need help deciding

thanks
The R. When you are face first in the dirt you will always regret not chosing the R. On the road you will only miss the standard if you are racing someone, which you of course never do... right ?

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Old 08-01-2013, 09:49 AM   #3799
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The R. When you are face first in the dirt you will always regret not chosing the R. On the road you will only miss the standard if you are racing someone, which you of course never do... right ?

Audun
I come from the gtr as well , standard model is a lot better , it can do mud or offroad as good as a bmw. And it's a lot better on the road then adventure r.
Steering better, high speed balance better,it's not as high, more road then offroad but it is a capable off road as well.

R model is really hard core offroad mud,river crossings, Dakar style riding. r is a good bike but on road it lags because of its design and front wheel.
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Old 08-01-2013, 09:53 AM   #3800
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Hi All

So my question is, which bike would you buy the Adventure or the Adventure "R"
Will be doing 80% road and 20% dirt for now.
I also have a Kawasaki concours 1400

I need help deciding

thanks
Adventure.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:08 AM   #3801
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80% of time on tarmac, 80% of Adventure. Far better on tarmac due to tires and EDS.

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:25 AM   #3802
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80% of time on tarmac, 80% of Adventure. Far better on tarmac due to tires and EDS.

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so you are saying get the adventure?
thanks
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:52 AM   #3803
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so you are saying get the adventure?
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Like mine :)


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Old 08-01-2013, 11:13 AM   #3804
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Like mine :)


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Nice .. did you test drive the R model too?
and I thought the crash guard only comes in Black
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:00 PM   #3805
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Nice .. did you test drive the R model too?
and I thought the crash guard only comes in Black
Yes I did, but just on tarmac. It's also a nice bike, but if you push hard the R's traction contol has much more job to do compared with the Adv. His tires can't do miracles against 150cv.

On the other hand if you don't plan to do really extreme trail or enduro yo will be surprised about Adv's offroad attitude even wearing stock tires.

... and yes, you can choose the orange guards ;)

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Old 08-01-2013, 12:30 PM   #3806
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I have tried to mount the Hepco Becker crashbar; had issues. Couldn't finish to take a photo. I will try to do it tomorrow morning. The HB crashbar keeps the OE grey plastic protectons on the bike.8
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:36 PM   #3807
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And by fender you mean screen, right?
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Hi All

So my question is, which bike would you buy the Adventure or the Adventure "R"
Will be doing 80% road and 20% dirt for now.
I also have a Kawasaki concours 1400

I need help deciding

thanks
I had to make the same decision last year and ordered the Standard. And i would do it again
Ciao
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:38 PM   #3808
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Yes I did, but just on tarmac. It's also a nice bike, but if you push hard the R's traction contol has much more job to do compared with the Adv. His tires can't do miracles against 150cv.

On the other hand if you don't plan to do really extreme trail or enduro yo will be surprised about Adv's offroad attitude even wearing stock tires.

... and yes, you can choose the orange guards ;)

Regards.

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Can you put nob tires on the regular Adventure?
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Old 08-01-2013, 04:31 PM   #3809
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Can you put nob tires on the regular Adventure?
Yes, TCK 80.

http://www.conti-online.com/www/moto...tkc_80_en.html

but with the stock tires you can also have some fun ...



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Old 08-01-2013, 07:27 PM   #3810
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Definitely the Adventure for that much Tarmac usage.

Like the orange crash bars. Going to install these on my orange bike. :)

Go loud or go home :) or so was suggested :)
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