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Old 09-21-2012, 08:29 AM   #631
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My biggest problem, based on photos alone, is the central fuel cap. Not having to remove the tankbag to fill up is one of the aspects of the 990 I really liked beyond its competitors.

Seems petty, but if you're doing a long trip with lots of fill ups it makes a big difference.
My tank bag unzips from the base to allow for easy fueling, so I don't have to remove to fuel my SM. I think you might be worrying about a problem that doesn't really exist.

I think this bike looks AWESOME and if I were not still in love my SM I would seriously be considering it. I think KTM will show why they remain the best maker in this segment. Don't be afraid of progress.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:35 AM   #632
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They mention low fuel consumption on KTM site. If this is for real and the tank is 23 liters, than we may be refuelling in longer periods than the 990.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:39 AM   #633
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I like the 990's and liked my old 950 too. I think they are iconic designs, much the way many of the Ducati's have been over recent decades. I just hate to see the KTM twins end up so boring to look at.

They should have retained that beautiful trellis chassis and kept the styling minimalist. The new bike has no character.

Oh well. I love my 690R and it may be the last new bike I buy anyways. It has more character than anything I've owned. The chassis is the prettiest part of the motorcycle and they hung a lot of really nice parts on it.


Also, their dirt bike line has become remarkably high fit and finish and many of them are street legal too. Still plenty fast, as an example my son topped out at 96mph in the Mexican 1000 last spring. Not bad for a 350 dual sport.

KTM is finally having great success in USA motocross, not to mention their hot new Moto3 GP bikes.

As long as they keep producing beautiful performance machines like my 690 and son's 350 and 200, I guess I can accept them going after the BMW market with the 1190. Some of us wouldn't be caught dead on a BMW so maybe they actually pick up some market share. I'd never want one, nor any of the other bike bikes trying to steal GS 1200 sales, though.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:45 AM   #634
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While I respect many of yalls opinions and know that most of you have more experience than my mere 9k miles on a 9x0 adventure, what I'm getting here is 42 pages of,

"The Adventure 9x0 is soo good, we don't think KTM can ever build anything better, or even as good, so they shouldnt try, ever, and if they do, we won't buy one just on principle."

Yeah its got more power, but it doesn't weigh any more.

Yeah it looks like a vstrom, but just looking at the 9x0 doesnt reveal its offroad prowess either.

I agree the 9x0 is that good. I agree it will be hard to beat or even match. But I'm glad KTM is trying, rather than keeping the 9x0 around for 25 years till its so obsolete KTM isnt even competitive anymore. And from what Ive seen, they haven't missed the mark by too much. But rather than base my opinion on how ugly it is, I'll reserve judgement till i ride one.

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:05 AM   #635
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My tank bag unzips from the base to allow for easy fueling, so I don't have to remove to fuel my SM. I think you might be worrying about a problem that doesn't really exist.

I think this bike looks AWESOME and if I were not still in love my SM I would seriously be considering it. I think KTM will show why they remain the best maker in this segment. Don't be afraid of progress.
I thought a dual-tanked bike which can be filled with the tankbag in place was progress!

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:06 AM   #636
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KTM has a pretty good track record of building progressively better bikes I would say. When you are building race bikes you have to put a competitive product on the market, with road bikes it's rider desires.

It looks like oil changes and other maintenance should be easier which is one gripe the public had about our 9x0s. The weight staying down is cool, but does the new style have the same sweet off road feel is something I'm wondering about.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:35 AM   #637
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Most guys here chose the 950/990 OVER the BMWs and Ducatis. They had more dirt in their blood. If you bought a 950-990 thinking it was a better BMW or Ducati or V-Strom I guess this bike should thrill you? I know what I would want in a new gen Adv, lighter, thinner ergos and better sump protection. This fails on all counts. The last thing I'd have asked for is more power. I'm sure this will fit more riders needs, or their perceived needs I guess, but for the riders who chose the 950-990s over this style bike it holds little to be desired IMO.

Then again, mine had knobbies on it most of the time and my SE does today. It looks like a mongo SMT to me, not interested. The last black & white Adv R 990 tempted me but my SE is a better choice. If they built a Adv version of the SE they'd have impressed me!

Walt, I don't know how you plan to use another 50+ HP, you barely have either tire on the ground now!
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:46 AM   #638
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:56 AM   #639
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:02 AM   #640
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asymmetric panniers

asymmetric paniers?!
http://www.ktmcapetown.co.za/wp-cont...n2-620x300.jpg[IMG][/IMG]


I just hope there will be 690 adventure in the near future, and that's what most people here would love.
On the other hand I don't 'think the new 1190 will not do gravel well, let's wait for the first ride reports.

Some say that in US it will be model 2014, I guess EU will do the beta run of this product.

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:11 AM   #641
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Hmmmm... definitely looks better from that angle

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:23 AM   #642
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As a guy who dented his SMR header on the only gravel road it was ever on, expect to replace that header often!
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:31 AM   #643
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They always look better from this angle.

Awesome road!
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:51 AM   #644
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Hmmmm... definitely looks better from that angle

Looks like a dr750/800 from that angle... "beak warning 1.0". But it sure gonna be one hell of a bike.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:56 AM   #645
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Hmmmm... definitely looks better from that angle

thanks for the pointer to this site. This one looks awesome:



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