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Old 10-12-2012, 04:04 PM   #1291
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Maybe it is just some website maintenance, but as of this writing the KTM 1190 is removed from the US website (still on Euro website, from what I can tell).

Interesting....
That's what I said! Wonder what the deal is...
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:10 PM   #1292
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That's what I said! Wonder what the deal is...
KTM brass have been watching this thread closely and decided that they would rather save production allocations for the rest of the world that wants it, so they have pulled all plans to sell it here... no point in feeding donkeys strawberries.





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Old 10-12-2012, 05:11 PM   #1293
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It's not for us!!!

Considering most of us already own an incredibly versatile adventure touring bike in the 9xx, and still love it... we are not the target audience for the 1190. We've already been exposed to the design capabilities of KTM and their bigger adventure bike experience.

The BMW, S10'rs and Tri 12'rs are the riders that should be flooding the markets with their near new bikes and jumping 1st in line for a new 1190. This bike makes perfect sense for them as a bridge to better mobility without sacrifice.

For the rest of us current 9xx owners, I think KTM knows what we all want, those of us wanting a serious design bump to our current platforms... Lighter, nimbler, faster, simpler.

KTM...slow to the gate... first to the flag.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:16 PM   #1294
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KTM brass have been watching this thread closely and decided that they would rather save production allocations for the rest of the world that wants it, so they have pulled all plans to sell it here... no point in feeding donkeys strawberries.

Or maybe their famously snatchy throttle behavior mixed with 150 HP and dualsport tires caused everyone to crash the test bikes? KTM then realized unleashing these portly moto GP bikes on skinny tires to a bunch of goobers was a really bad idea?
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:01 PM   #1295
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maybe they realized the suspension travel and ground clearance sucks
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:48 PM   #1296
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Interesting... no center stand for 1190 wow, typical for KLR but $15,000 bike?
on the other site the steering damper is a nice addition. electronic or manual?
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:28 PM   #1297
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Interesting... no center stand for 1190 wow, typical for KLR but $15,000 bike?
on the other site the steering damper is a nice addition. electronic or manual?
uh... looks like it has a center stand to me

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Old 10-12-2012, 11:54 PM   #1298
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Yes but this is R, the comparison table shows no center stand for the standarts
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:29 AM   #1299
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This new bike sure makes me happy to have my 990 R and 950 SE! Those bikes are about as street oriented as I want to have. To me, the previous generation bikes are big dirtbikes and I ride them like big dirtbikes. I don't commute or tour on them. I ride the straightest, shortest route to dirt and then the straightest, shortest route home. Sometimes they even get hauled to the start of a ride in the back of my truck! Fortunately that means I don't put a ton of miles on them, so they should last a while.

The 1190 is obviously KTM chasing dollars from other manufacturers. I always thought the V-strom I had would be better with stiffer, inverted forks. The 1190 would be a way to find out! Someone should take side shots from all the manufacturers that have bikes that look like this and superimpose them. Or make an animated gif. Line up the axles or maybe try to scale them correctly. It's like they all got together and tried to standardize "the look". Beaks are optional, apparently.
+1. My first impressions of the new 1190 are that KTM's marketing department woke up and realised, "We're absolutely coining it in on our small capacity dirt bikes and will continue to do so, but there's another lucrative market segment we should be going after: The middle aged, middle class man who has watched The Long Way Round and wants a bike that people who know what they're doing can/will ride in the dirt, but which he himself will never even take down a gravel road." This looks to me like they are going right up against the GSA and GS1200.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:47 AM   #1300
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+1. My first impressions of the new 1190 are that KTM's marketing department woke up and realised, "We're absolutely coining it in on our small capacity dirt bikes and will continue to do so, but there's another lucrative market segment we should be going after: The middle aged, middle class man who has watched The Long Way Round and wants a bike that people who know what they're doing can/will ride in the dirt, but which he himself will never even take down a gravel road." This looks to me like they are going right up against the GSA and GS1200.
And I am flattered that KTM are making a bike just for me
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:48 AM   #1301
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Interesting... no center stand for 1190 wow, typical for KLR but $15,000 bike?
on the other site the steering damper is a nice addition. electronic or manual?
As many have said the target audience for the 1190 are GS/GSA riders, at BMW even the valve caps on tyres are optional so why give away anything for free if you can have them pay for it.
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:52 AM   #1302
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And I am flattered that KTM are making a bike just for me
Yep; nothing wrong with that. I have plenty of friends and have met plenty of good people who fall into that category.
Similarly, the fact that most big GSes get driven that way does not in any way require a retaliatory youtube posting of someone jumping one onto rocks to prove they can. I know they can. Hell, even most of the F800GSes (my own stupidly oversized dirtbike weapon of choice) spend their life being babied on tarmac.

It's interesting to see KTM diverging from their single-minded focus in this way. What next, Husaberg make a Goldwing rival?
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:22 AM   #1303
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:50 PM   #1304
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Well it has less suspension travel
no doubt to suit more riders that are vertically challanged and the Latte crowd.

The engine should be better than the old LC8

What weight is the 1190R compared to the 990R.

Has the 1190R got ABS ?

Has the 1190R got traction control ?
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:02 PM   #1305
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