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Old 10-13-2012, 06:07 PM   #1306
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You know looking at the bikes more carefully the 1190 adventure is aimed at the SM-T. 320mm radial brembos... 19/17 etc...
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:30 PM   #1307
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1190 same place as the Freeride

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Maybe it is just some website maintenance, but as of this writing the KTM 1190 is removed from the US website (still on Euro website, from what I can tell).

Interesting....
1190 web page gone. ?
I imagine the 1190 went to the same place that the 350 Freeride and electric Free ride models went. NOT AVAILABLE IN THE U.S.! KTM Corp. knows whats best for us yanks.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:07 PM   #1308
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:08 PM   #1309
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I was looking at buying a 990 but all that bodywork and weight was a turn off. So I looked at the 1190 online and it looks more like a dirt bike (and easier to work on) when I realized they already made what I was looking for and I bought a low mileage 950se for half the price of what a 1190 will cost. With a small windscreen and add some more fuel capacity I am done! What the hell do we need a bigger motor for?
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:13 PM   #1310
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The street barge captains think they need 185 MPH top speed capabilities on their Trailwings!
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #1311
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The street barge captains think they need 185 MPH top speed capabilities on their Trailwings!
How many posts do you think youve had on this topic??? All positive, might be time to flog another dead horse.
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:01 PM   #1312
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The street barge captains think they need 185 MPH top speed capabilities on their Trailwings!
Yeah because 100+ isn't enough when your sitting at the coffee shop talking about riding....
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:11 AM   #1313
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Hi all,

Looking at the offroad performance I would want to get out of the new 1190, to ride two up on any road that comes along, I noticed something very interesting at the BMW stand at the Intermot last week... The new water cooled GS had the same size tyres on as the 1190! 120/70R19 and 170/60R17. The standard Gs had new Metzeler Tourance's on, but best of all the adventure off road GS had a new Karoo pattern on, the Karoo 3 or something!!!

For my needs, I think the new Karoo would be more than enough to cope with any trail on the standard 1190 with the 19" & 17" combo. If i'm really going for the rough stuff, I wouldnt want to be 2 up, and I can go with my exc450...

Only problem is that the R looks so much cooler
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Old 10-14-2012, 05:50 AM   #1314
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I can't--- Pavement Adventurers meeting at Starbucks for brunch and lattes at 11.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:42 AM   #1315
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Hi all,

Looking at the offroad performance I would want to get out of the new 1190, to ride two up on any road that comes along, I noticed something very interesting at the BMW stand at the Intermot last week... The new water cooled GS had the same size tyres on as the 1190! 120/70R19 and 170/60R17. The standard Gs had new Metzeler Tourance's on, but best of all the adventure off road GS had a new Karoo pattern on, the Karoo 3 or something!!!

For my needs, I think the new Karoo would be more than enough to cope with any trail on the standard 1190 with the 19" & 17" combo. If i'm really going for the rough stuff, I wouldnt want to be 2 up, and I can go with my exc450...

Only problem is that the R looks so much cooler
The Karoos do pretty well off road, the problem is that you will be lucky get more than 2 tanks of gas out of a rear with 150 HP!
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:19 AM   #1316
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If you really want to go off road the upper limit is the KTM 690 enduro. Add just some sand or mud and any bike bigger than the 690 start having problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj2eshF0El0
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:12 AM   #1317
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If you really want to go off road the upper limit is the KTM 690 enduro. Add just some sand or mud and any bike bigger than the 690 start having problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj2eshF0El0
Yep.

I don't see a problem with KTM adding a luxury touring bike, it's a cool looking bike! Not sure how much of a PITA it's going to be to do Maintainence, valves and stuff though.

But for going seriously offroad, even the 950/990 is a garbage scow. Who wants to throw a $14,000 / 600lb (loaded) beast onto the ground at regular intervals anyway? But to take long trips and be able to get out back to the best fishing spots, camping spots, etc, ok, I can see that. If I want to go hardcore offloading, even a 500 is a lot of bike.

I like the new 1190, and if its going to be 150hp it's going to rule the roost in the adv big bike category.
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Old 10-14-2012, 10:47 AM   #1318
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Yep.

I don't see a problem with KTM adding a luxury touring bike, it's a cool looking bike! Not sure how much of a PITA it's going to be to do Maintainence, valves and stuff though.

But for going seriously offroad, even the 950/990 is a garbage scow. Who wants to throw a $14,000 / 600lb (loaded) beast onto the ground at regular intervals anyway? But to take long trips and be able to get out back to the best fishing spots, camping spots, etc, ok, I can see that. If I want to go hardcore offloading, even a 500 is a lot of bike.

I like the new 1190, and if its going to be 150hp it's going to rule the roost in the adv big bike category.
Here in Chile the 990 Adv is $22.000! Ouch!

But the most beautiful places are usually at the end of a dirty road, and to go there, after 800 km of highway and paved roads the 1190 will be the perfect weapon!
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:17 PM   #1319
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I can't--- Pavement Adventurers meeting at Starbucks for brunch and lattes at 11.
I heard they've got reserved parking for the BMWs



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Old 10-14-2012, 02:52 PM   #1320
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If you really want to go off road the upper limit is the KTM 690 enduro. Add just some sand or mud and any bike bigger than the 690 start having problems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj2eshF0El0
yea i could handle the se in sand once it had a 908 on the back it was predictable until it started to go over then it fell quick, the 690 way easier. Mud otoh was sketchy especially downhill. Cant imagine the 1190 r will be that much more challenging than the regular 990 now, and of course will be the preeminent dirt road cruiser
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