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Old 05-10-2012, 04:30 PM   #76
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I'd like to know what they think of that thing now. How do they go back to standard configuration without admitting it wasn't the answer to the question nobody asked.
They tried the reversed cylinder on the TZ 250 years ago and it failed too. Better to go humbly back to what works. Nobody that's ridden the current 450 would buy one, or buy one again, if they already made that mistake.
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:37 PM   #77
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I wonder how short these SX/MX threads would be if there was no JS7...seems like if he actually retired folks would have nothing else to discuss...





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Old 05-10-2012, 06:25 PM   #78
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Nobody that's ridden the current 450 would buy one, or buy one again, if they already made that mistake.
from 5/6/12

local race.



OPEN B
Overall Number Brand License # Name City,State District Moto 1 Moto 2 Moto 3 Division Consi
1 41 KAW 688180 Matthew I. Curiel Glenwood, NJ 1 1 1
2 403 SUZ Keil Dwyer Huntington Station, NY 2 2 2
3 121 YAM 2080040 Jeffrey L. Albert Wolcott, CT 4 3 3
4 9 KAW 544069 Matthew J. White Pompton Lakes, NJ 34 3 5 4
5 321 HON 331453 Jeff A. Mesler Manahawkin, NJ 5 4 5
6 412 KAW 924920 John Bacchiocchi Seymour, CT 6 7 6
7 854 HON 560390 John R. Debiase Seymour, CT 8 8 7
8 258 KAW Garrett Smith Pleasant Valley, NY 9 10 8
9 646 KAW 932846 Otto Maier Pleasent Valley, NY 7 12 9
10 511 KAW 857040 Michael Nuzzo Nesconset, NY 15 6 10
11 384 YAM 888733 Nick Feindt Millburn, NJ 13 9 11
12 71 SUZ 522745 Anthony Yonta Gardiner, NY 16 11 12
13 8 HON 750534 Zachary Reinson Hillsborough, NJ 10 DNF 13
14 348 HON Geovanny Altamirano Norwalk, CT 11 DNF 14
15 13 SUZ 2737345 John C. Bulzacchelli Pleasant Valley, NY 12 DNF 15
16 41x KAW 1065024 Tommy Falduto Stamford, CT 14 DNF 16
17 377 KAW 567177 Ralph Roccisano Pine Bush, NY 17 DNF 17
DNF 14 KAW 749518 Michael S. Miller North Branford, CT DNF DNF 18

OPEN C
Overall Number Brand License # Name City,State District Moto 1 Moto 2 Moto 3 Division Consi
1 210 KTM 2020013 James M. Koukoulas Sparta, NJ 2 1 1
2 916 KAW 504771 Daniel Dillin Montgomery, NY 1 2 2
3 497 HON 714971 Jake Sauter Hopewell Juncti, NY 3 4 3
4 20 HON 808842 Garrett Yarrish New Milford, CT 6 3 4
5 10 KTM 473783 Joseph R. Baker Walden, NY 7 5 5
6 92d HON 906179 Dalton Mccullough Laceyville, PA 4 8 6
7 889 HON 249075 Matthew C. Pavlak Haskell, NJ 8 10 7
8 625 HON 1099065 Ernie Benson Jr Pequannock, NJ 12 7 8
9 62 HON 479461 Michael Sr Baker Walden, NY 14 6 9
10 304 HON 2753136 Jean Lareau Saugerties, NY 11 9 10
11 106 KTM 2528040 Danny Derasmo Bronx, NY 16 11 11
12 368 HON 2820972 Ryan Fetchick Sandy Hook, CT 15 12 12
13 11x SUZ 1091463 Thomas C. Giambrone Glen Gardner, NJ 5 DNF 13
14 282 HON 2116726 James M. Barnight Carbondale, PA 18 13 14
15 11 YAM 2086435 Joshua Cortigiano Wolcott, CT 9 DNF 15
16 31 HON Alex Lewis Maybrook, NY 10 DNF 16
17 35x KAW 1109651 Kyle Kennedy Wallkill, NY 13 DNF 17
18 27 KAW 1081140 Dennis H. Bazon Yorktown Height, NY 17 DNF 18
DNF 517 SUZ Roy Seguro Norwalk, CT DNF DNF 19
DNF 927 HON 961481 Mike Skalaski Goldens Bridge, NY DNF DNF 20
DNF 306 YAM Cesar Diaz Norwalk, CT DNF DNF 21
DNF 35 KAW 969721 Shane Halleran Columbiaville, NY DSQ DNF 22




OPEN A PRO
Overall Number Brand License # Name City,State District Moto 1 Moto 2 Moto 3 Division Consi
1 81 SUZ 499171 Aaron Lampi Fishkill, NY 34 1 1 1
2 77 KTM 500630 Lowell Spangler Lebanon, PA 2 2 2
3 607 YAM 644896 Kyle Endriss Lew Beach, NY 3 3 3
4 116 HON 624092 Michael C. Lang Saugerties, NY 6 4 4
5 4 KAW 202425 Scott Sheak Hudson, NY 4 6 5
6 94 HON 382181 Charles Fox Iii Sussex, NJ 34 7 5 6
7 41 KAW 353513 James Coen X Wallkill, NY 5 9 7
8 582 SUZ 738744 Robert Tiso Wolcott, CT 8 10 8
9 921 HON 643580 Dylan Brajkovich Grantville, PA 18 7 9
10 686 KAW 921754 Jeromy Slater Beacon Falls, CT 14 11 10
11 519 KAW 533722 Alexander M. Nagy Richmond, IL 12 14 11
12 618 KAW 745699 Robert Malkiewicz Hamilton, NJ 16 12 12
13 371 HON 591253 Joshua A. Stoodley Altamont, NY 17 13 13
14 5 KAW 717493 Richard J. Kastle Gilbertsville, PA 13 18 14
15 213 YAM 635509 Eric Balawejder Garnet Valley, PA 11 20 15
16 420 HON 701917 Christopher Duymich Millstone Towns, NJ DNF 8 16
17 686x YAM 712765 Charlie M. Miller Pennsville, NJ 19 15 17
18 787 KAW 713690 Matthew C. Moore Warwick, NY 34 9 DNF 18
19 1 KAW 745466 Troy A. Davis Middletown, NY 10 DNF 19
20 27 YAM 651625 Frank Eckel Morganville, NJ 20 16 20
21 53 KAW 492584 Nicholas Peccarelli Nutley, NJ 34 22 17 21
22 625 KAW 381645 Patrick G. Coreno Mechanicville, NY 21 19 22
23 727 SUZ 393816 Matthew N. Hammer Ridgefield, CT 34 15 DNF 23
24 171 HON 697926 Daren Ogden Fort Edward, NY 23 DNF 24
DNF 784 KAW 576935 Michael James Garrison, ny DNF DNF 25


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Old 05-10-2012, 06:46 PM   #79
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I'd like to know what they think of that thing now. How do they go back to standard configuration without admitting it wasn't the answer to the question nobody asked.
Are you familiar with the Husaberg? Probably a good thing they aren't in motocross.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:33 PM   #80
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Anyone ever look at it as this:
Stewart realized he threw things away in the past and was looking to truly move on. He saw what he thought was a potentially promising team: JGR. He may of thought that he already had some baseline idea of how the tilted YZ450F handled, and that "The Coach" @ JGR would be the final factor in making him super competitive. On paper, it all seemed like a great partnership & a great match.

Unfortunately he made the mistake of sticking with Yamaha on the tilted engine, and put "The Coach" @ JGR on too high of a pedestal. Just cause the man can make a race car go in circles fast, doesn't mean that they can put together a winning bike......especially when its a funky engine layout + crapirellis + a rider who pushes bikes beyond their limits.

So it was middle\end of the SX season, JS7 realizes that he made a mistake, and capitalized on his "injury". He sees his way out of a negative situation & immediately gets looking for a new bike. Why waste another minute in a business relationship that isn't benefiting anyone?

Looking forward to how he & all the others do in the outdoors. The comfort level Dungey seems to have on the KTM puts him as a solid contender for the title.

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Makes sense but that's the "it's the bike" argument and it doesn't wash. He won heats and mains on it and his team mate got 2nd in the championship. The problem is not the bike. The problem is Stewart not being prepared for his competition and then riding over his head to compensate. Why did he fire Aldon Baker? The man who has trained so many champions.

--or--

maybe this tilted Yamaha is a factor. Maybe when pushed as far as someone like Stewart it doesn't handle predictably. Bubba has always had a wild style and rides on the ragged edge. But when he was dominating the bike had a conventional layout. But I still have to think that if his head was in the game and he had the desire of the two Ryans he would have the bike dialed in and adjusted his riding style to the unconventional YZ.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:37 PM   #81
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I sound-checked at a local hare scramble last weekend. There was one of the new YZF-450's. I asked the rider how he liked it. He said that he rode it last year and would like it much better if it turned. He said that it fought him in the corners.

I do not remember if he was an A or B rider (he brought his bike in after the C race started, had to be A or B.)

Not a very scientific sample, but I did see more Husabergs than I did new Yams.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:44 PM   #82
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The problem is Stewart not being prepared for his competition and then riding over his head to compensate. Why did he fire Aldon Baker? The man who has trained so many champions.

There's your answer right there. JS7 has been at this a really long time and his only time off is because of injuries. Its hard to get back to #1 and Baker was his best chance but he's burnt out and not willing to put in the Herculean efforts required. He's also probably rich enough that he's all set for the rest of his life. He seems to enjoy the celebrity status but soon after he stops riding he'll just be another "Past Champion". His ego was writing checks that his riding couldn't cash in.

If you watched Bubbas World you could see it unfold with Baker trying to drive him harder and Bubba just pulling up and saying he was tired. Todd Potter also ruined him by showing him the "Good Life"-that was in episode 9 and 10.

The dude never had a real childhood and his fun was just riding. He has now seen the other side and wants to spend some time there. Just like Tiger Woods his time has come and gone. I wish him well and hope he stays healthy.
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:36 AM   #83
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Another rider that fell to the Yamaha curse was Ricky Dietrich. The guy could do no wrong in the offroad world on his KX 450 F. I think he got 2nd overall @ the 2010 ISDE and did damn good as a fill in at Factory Kawi the last time Villopoto was injured. I think he was pulling top 5's? Anyway, he quit offroad and tried fulltime MX on a Yamaha and things fell apart.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:28 AM   #84
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Are you familiar with the Husaberg? Probably a good thing they aren't in motocross.
2012 is the last year for the 70 degree motor in Husabergs.
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:53 AM   #85
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2012 is the last year for the 70 degree motor in Husabergs.
Really??? I did not know that.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:15 AM   #86
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Really??? I did not know that.
That's what the word is. I guess they could re-badge any left over 2012s into 2013s.

I do not think they even brought any 2012 4-strokes into the states, just the new 2-strokes.



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Thanks for the link.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:33 AM   #88
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That's what the word is. I guess they could re-badge any left over 2012s into 2013s.

I do not think they even brought any 2012 4-strokes into the states, just the new 2-strokes.



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Yep too many left over 11s so no 12 thumpers from berg. 13s will basically be blue katooms. Hell all the bergs have disappeared from local races around here too.
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Huh, I thought they had been selling well, locally. The 2t line of both KTM and Berg sell out fairly quick though.
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I have some experience on a Husaberg, just recently sold it, '09 FE450. Great bikes. Heavy though. I couldn't quite gel with the way the back end tracked/handled, I had the shock revalved twice by two separate shops, played with clickers, etc, but never could quite get the rear to feel planted. But otherwise they hide their weight well and feel light and nimble as long as you are moving.

I replaced it with a 2012 KTM 350 EXC-F, and this new bikes suits me a lot better, and it shows in my race results. It's all personal preference though, IMO. Not to mention the 350 is 30 lbs lighter, which definitely helps in the type of racing I do.
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