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Old 04-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #31
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What Hilleberg you use ?
I have a Solou and a Jannu. Also have a Bibler.
Nammatj 2 GT. Best tent I have ever owned by a long shot... Love the big vestibule...
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:50 PM   #32
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Big Agnes Buffalo has what no one else does. A sleeve that the pad or air mat slides into so you never roll off. Its a wide comfortable bag made for 40 degrees that packs smaller than many mummys cause it uses the pad as the bottom insulator.

I just slept warm at temps below 30 in it at Warped.

FWI. That's an easy mod to make to any synthetic bag that unzips fully.

Just need a sewing machine, or a good friend with one , and some suitable fabric for the sleeve. I used nylon weed mat (Which is a lot saner choice than you'd think, water resistant but breathes well).

Turned my $50 (on special) sleeping bag into a long term keeper. The air mat I use also has the slip over fittings that turn it into a seat - so all up the combination is very compact for what it provides. It probably isn't as compact as the Big Agnes, as it still has the bottom layer, but it still packs into the original sleeping bag cover.

Just a comment, the bag sleeps quite a bit warmer once that's done.

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Old 04-29-2012, 04:16 AM   #33
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Here is my camp gear in its bag that goes on the bike.



Contents of said bag.



Sleeping bag is in the yellow and grey waterproof stuff sack.

The yellow roll right below it is the pad.

Bag is a Big Agnes Lost Ranger, the pad is and Exped SynMat UL 7.

Packs nice and small...

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I think I am going to follow you around and hope the bag falls off the motorcycle. Well done.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:07 AM   #34
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I use a Snugpak Merlin 3. Packs down really small (a little bigger than 2 clenched fists) and is synthetic so is not a warm as down unless something happens to get the bag wet when it is better than down. Down bags are great but not if space is the issue because they are less tolerant of compression sacks.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:11 PM   #35
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You might give down quilts a look. They need an insulated mat, but work just like the blankets on your bed. Pack really small. http://www.jacksrbetter.com/
just to name one to get you started.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:42 AM   #36
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I think I am going to follow you around and hope the bag falls off the motorcycle. Well done.
LoL

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Old 05-02-2012, 03:05 PM   #37
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If you're going to keep it in your cases then don't get a down one. They need to be stored uncompressed. Same is true for synthetic really but they don't suffer from prolonged compression as badly as the down ones do.
Plus 1

Take a look at Wiggys Bags.

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Old 05-02-2012, 07:35 PM   #38
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Wiggys Bags

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Plus 1

Take a look at Wiggys Bags.

Pete

How small will a Wiggys bag pack down.

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Old 05-03-2012, 09:54 AM   #39
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How small will a Wiggys bag pack down.

john
Depends on the model. They come with a compression bag as their standard storage bag. He has sold these to the military in vacuum sealed packs to fit under a pilot's seat for emergency use, and they regain their loft, no problem. Definitely larger than any down filled bag, but probably about the same as most synthetics. I'll see if I can find a picture and post it.
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:10 PM   #40
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Big agnes summit park warm bag, just has a sleeve on the bottom for a mat, so you save space, compresses down to an 8" ball

http://www.campsaver.com/summit-park...g-bag-650-down

Cocoon coolmax liner,, a giant moisture wick for your body, plus can use when warm and keep the bag open. http://www.campmor.com/cocoon-100-co...4&ci_sku=45930

exped 9 dlx downmat (fits in Big agnes sleeve so you don't roll off) http://www.campmor.com/exped-downmat...4&ci_sku=91303
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:24 PM   #41
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I really like my Wiggy bags!

One night it was about -10C (about 15F) I spilled my water bottle on the foot of my Wiggy bags (Nautilus FTRSS). I didn't realize how much water I spilled until the next morning when I found a small puddle of water on top of my Symat 9DLX. I slept well and hadn't noticed the water.

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Old 05-03-2012, 06:25 PM   #42
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Wiggys.
+10. Keeps you warm even when wet. Down - not so much.
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:55 PM   #43
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One Sleeping bag I have not seen posted here is the Slumberjack Ultimate 30

I have this bag as one of my mid weight bags - I love it because it is light weight , compresses down to a roll that is 14 inches long and 5 inch around, and honestly is way warmer then most 30 deg bags I have slept in. Plus it only cost 50.00

http://www.slumberjack.com/p-542-ult...=sleeping-bags

I fancy myself as something of a gear aficionado, when it comes to sleeping bags I have a pile, everything from Kelty, to North Face Quest, Coleman, Slumberjack. Most bags in the budget range, I would honestly say do not live up to their ratings, I have 20 deg bags I freeze in at 35 deg. this little Slumberjack is spot on, I have no problem grabbing it when I am expecting 30 deg temps. it has footbox vents as well to help with the warmer times. It is just a solid nice priced bag.
I agree on the ratings, my slumberjacks were the only bags that I could ever use in the temperatures at which they were rated and be comfortable. My "summer" bag is a Slumberjack Diablo, it's an extra wide 36" bag rated at 40. I used it at those temps, and down to 30 (with a downmat, wool socks and a tshirt) and woke up warm. It got down to the 20's that night, the bikes all had icycles on them. I was fine, even had some sweat on my neck.

My winter bag is a big agnes summit park, 15d down. Packs to roughly the same size as the slumberjack.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:16 AM   #44
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+10. Keeps you warm even when wet. Down - not so much.
I have been using down bags when camping for over 40 years (including nearly 20 years river rafting) and have never managed to get one wet. What am I doing wrong?
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:23 AM   #45
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I have been using down bags when camping for over 40 years (including nearly 20 years river rafting) and have never managed to get one wet. What am I doing wrong?

Maybe you've been foolishly using a tent and keeping the bag out of the water, just like me.
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