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Old 04-29-2012, 06:04 AM   #91
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I thought that Lorenzo was playing with Stoner. Turns out Stoner was dangling the carrot in front of JLo. Amazing riders both of them.
The gap at the finish was 1 second....did lorenzo give up?

Or did casey decide 'entertainment is over'?

After lorenzo had a look in on the 3rd last lap, casey shot away.....
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:09 AM   #92
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The gap at the finish was 1 second....did lorenzo give up?

Or did casey decide 'entertainment is over'?

After lorenzo had a look in on the 3rd last lap, casey shot away.....
A look at the lap times gives us a glimpse at what happened.

http://resources.motogp.com/files/re...df?v1_d45a543d

Stoner picked up the pace. His second to last lap was the fastest lap of the last 10 laps and his 4th fastest lap overall.

Lorenzo was pretty consistent in the end, riding at about the same pace he had in the race.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:13 AM   #93
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Stoner said ".. we had a very good front end feel and as you know, this track is all about front end..." - is this a helping hand to Rossi or a slap at Ducati? My guess is that this goes to the factory; " I told you so you morons, I can win anywhere on a decent bike...".
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:55 AM   #94
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He isn't the most verbose guy. In winter testing he was always right up there with Lorenzo, Pedrosa, and Stoner.

At Qatar, he was right up there too until the crashes bent up his #1 bike and #2 would not run. Thus, he was stuck riding the bent up #1 which chattered the rear wheel off the ground through the corners. Yep, he is mentally broken. Time to pack it in.

He was clearly not impressed that his second bike would not run and that Yamaha could not get it to run at Qatar.
I was just asking if he liked it
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:07 AM   #95
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It was interesting watching Hayden's progress - and eventual regress.

Early on, with the circuit a bit damp and slippery, he seemed to have more front-end feel than anybody.

It looked as though he could not believe those few in front of him were braking so early.

But then as it dried out the TV picked up a nasty looking sudden rear-end slide and soon after that he started going backwards.

It is as though the bike offers heaps of feel almost up to the point where the tyres get fully stressed, but then it's numb and the riders are guessing.

No fun.

But it was great watching Hayden in those early laps. For a few minutes I was thinking: this bike really does work and Hayden's just worked out how - he could win this.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:07 AM   #96
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The gap at the finish was 1 second....did lorenzo give up?

Or did casey decide 'entertainment is over'?

After lorenzo had a look in on the 3rd last lap, casey shot away.....
Most likely he backed off when he couldn't go faster than Stoner, Lorenzo knows that you can't win a championship by the second round but you could certainly lose one by crashing. Stoner won the battle but Lorenzo is thinking about winning the war.

The first couple of laps were pretty crazy and like a moto 2 race, I thought for sure somebody was going to be on the ground. Disappointed in Rossi and Spies, their team mates are really outshining them at this point.

Cal really seems to like these new Bridgestone's, what a difference it has made for his confidence.

And Stoner winning in Spain, what a surprise when you would figure that Lorenzo and Pedrosa would run away from the field battling for the win.

These messed up wet and dry weekends do a good job of mixing up the results.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:14 AM   #97
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Spies...wtf?
I haven't tuned into this weeks excuses, but the guy better send his mommy away or get her on the pit box, 'cause it sure isn't working the way it is.

Probably good that most (but not all) of the sponsors are internal to the Yamaha team because coverage of his mid-field effort was non-existent.

Sponsors lay out some huge $$$ in MotoGP, one more weekend like this one (and the last one) and their going to start feeling corndogged.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:28 AM   #98
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I wonder what Ajo did to get a one race penalty for Estoril. Fighting?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:49 AM   #99
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Looks like he pushed down a marshal after his crash.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:15 AM   #100
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Not much out there for videos....

http://youtu.be/bshiDy_oEbs

Moto gp wants $$$ to watch.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:10 AM   #101
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1Casey StonerRepsol Honda TeamHonda RC213V
2Jorge LorenzoYamaha Factory RacingYamaha M1
3Dani PedrosaRepsol Honda TeamHonda RC213V
4Cal CrutchlowYamaha Tech 3Yamaha M1
5Andrea DoviziosoYamaha Tech 3Yamaha M1
6Alvaro BautistaHonda GresiniHonda RC213V
7Stefan BradlLCR Honda MotoGPHonda RC213V
8Nicky HaydenMarlboro Ducati TeamDucati GP12
9Valentino RossiMarlboro Ducati TeamDucati GP12
10Hector BarberaPramac Racing TeamDucati GP12
11Ben SpiesYamaha Factory RacingYamaha M1
12Aleix EsparagoAsparART
13Danilo PetrucciIoda Racing ProjectIoda
14Mattia Pasini SpeedmasterART
15Ivan SilvaBQRBQR-FTR
16Colin EdwardsForward RacingSuter
17Karel AbrahamCardion AB MotoracingDucati GP12


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Dry race. Stoner's margin was .947. Hayden ran near the front of the race until his soft front tire rolled over and he slowly went back.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:33 AM   #102
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I was wrong about Spies.
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:49 AM   #103
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Spies...wtf?
I haven't tuned into this weeks excuses,
We ask a rider what went wrong. When he tells us what went wrong, he gets labeled as Making excuses. The only alternative is for rider not to tell us what a wrong. Would you rather be left in the dark ?

These guys don't get stupid over night. But their riding fortunes can change overnight With a change in manufacturer or equipment.
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:43 AM   #104
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I wonder what Ajo did to get a one race penalty for Estoril. Fighting?
Like you said, pushed down a marshall. However nothing mentioned on his website or facebook... Maybe an appeal coming up?

Edit: Niklas Ajo said (from his facebook page) that he run wide and crashed on the gravel trap and thought bike was completely rideable and nothing broke off. Just needed to shake off some gravel from the fairings. Marshall thought the bike was damaged and did not let him continue and Ajo pushed the marshall away. Said that he got a little bit too much adrenaline going on and lost his temper. Says that the penalty is a bit too harsh in a light of circumstances but will learn from it and get ready for the next race after Estoril.

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Thought too that Lorenzo was just waiting for the last 2 laps to make his move. Almost had Stoner about 3 laps remaining. That was his chance. Then Stoner just checked out and also Lorenzo said he played it safe as front was slippin'.

Crutchlow ftw! That bloke is on fire.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:08 PM   #105
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From Ben via the yamaha motogp website

“I don’t really know what happened, I got off to a pretty good start from the line but after that I didn’t have a good feeling with the bike, it was a pretty pathetic race really for me. I’ve apologized to the team and we’ve had a long meeting about what I was feeling with the bike. I just wasn’t comfortable, I rode as hard as I could but the speed just wasn’t there. We need to find something because we can see the Yamahas are working well but my feeling with the bike is not great. It was a bad day at the office today.”

Going to be an interesting silly season.
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