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Old 04-27-2012, 11:50 PM   #1
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Cycle World Review BMW C600-650GT

Cycle World , June 2012 review, (page 46) on the 2013 BMW C650GT and the C600 Sport Maxi Scooter
What Cycle World left out of the story: They stated that its simular to the Suzuki 650 Burgman and the Honda DN-01, but looking at the BMW C600 Sport model anybody can see its almost an exact copy of the Yamaha Tmax!
Cycle World also said: BMW says the development of the its C650GT and C600 Sport was done ENTIRELY IN-HOUSE. Both models will be manufactured in Berlin.
What they don't tell you is the engines are made by Kymco in Taiwan,,, so thats an entirely in-house?
BMW wants me to spend $12K for a scooter with a Kymco engine? Why don't I spend half that much for a Kymco Scooter?
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:33 AM   #2
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:59 AM   #3
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Cycle World , June 2012 review, (page 46) on the 2013 BMW C650GT and the C600 Sport Maxi Scooter
What Cycle World left out of the story: They stated that its simular to the Suzuki 650 Burgman and the Honda DN-01, but looking at the BMW C600 Sport model anybody can see its almost an exact copy of the Yamaha Tmax!
Cycle World also said: BMW says the development of the its C650GT and C600 Sport was done ENTIRELY IN-HOUSE. Both models will be manufactured in Berlin.
What they don't tell you is the engines are made by Kymco in Taiwan,,, so thats an entirely in-house?
BMW wants me to spend $12K for a scooter with a Kymco engine? Why don't I spend half that much for a Kymco Scooter?
You obviously are not getting it!

Will your Kymco say BMW on it? There, that's the reason.
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:10 AM   #4
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Kymco builds the engine. It does other engines for BMW, too. And some of the BMW designed engines are finding their way into Kymco product, such as ATV's.

It's a 100% BMW scooter. They've just sent the tooling to Kymco to let them handle the build, as Kymco are known for building engines, and what not. But just because Kymco workers manufacture an engine in Taiwan does not make it a Kymco engine, much less the scoots Kymco scoots
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:39 AM   #5
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BMW is all about the class and the luxury it brings to people, who can afford it, and they will get the big satisfaction of having that LOGO on what they drive. It is like the HD brand, it is all about the brand and 2nd is about the performance of the machine.

I like both brands and I think it different time I will one of each, first the Kymko for economical and practical reasons, then when I am wealthy of win the ruffle the BMW.

I like the new bmw scooters, when I saw then in the IMS show in Long Beach last december they look nice, how ever they did not had a price tag and that made it difficult to compare them with Suzuki and Yamaha.. and then I remember, they are not the same, Japan INc. lacks the European appeal, so comparison was over for me.

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Old 04-28-2012, 09:45 AM   #6
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Cycle World , June 2012 review, (page 46) on the 2013 BMW C650GT and the C600 Sport Maxi Scooter
What Cycle World left out of the story: They stated that its simular to the Suzuki 650 Burgman and the Honda DN-01, but looking at the BMW C600 Sport model anybody can see its almost an exact copy of the Yamaha Tmax!
Cycle World also said: BMW says the development of the its C650GT and C600 Sport was done ENTIRELY IN-HOUSE. Both models will be manufactured in Berlin.
What they don't tell you is the engines are made by Kymco in Taiwan,,, so thats an entirely in-house?
BMW wants me to spend $12K for a scooter with a Kymco engine? Why don't I spend half that much for a Kymco Scooter?
There is a reason the Burgman is the gold standard against which others are measured. There's also a reason few people have heard of the T-Max.
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:55 AM   #7
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BMW is all about the class and the luxury it brings to people, who can afford it, and they will get the big satisfaction of having that LOGO on what they drive. It is like the HD brand, it is all about the brand and 2nd is about the performance of the machine.

I like both brands and I think it different time I will one of each, first the Kymko for economical and practical reasons, then when I am wealthy of win the ruffle the BMW.

I like the new bmw scooters, when I saw then in the IMS show in Long Beach last december they look nice, how ever they did not had a price tag and that made it difficult to compare them with Suzuki and Yamaha.. and then I remember, they are not the same, Japan INc. lacks the European appeal, so comparison was over for me.

Just my 2 cents

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You're not incorrect. And I say that as a (former, as of next Monday) BMW owner.

There's the cachet of the brand, as you note. But behind that, is (still) the engineering that gave it that status. The BMW is a ten-tenths machine; unlike so many cycles, the equipment isn't toylike or shoddy. Everything works; works WELL; is thought-out. Not always to conclusions I would have reached (turn signals, for instance) but thought-out.

There's no denying the joy, in winding such a machine up on an empty road; or sling-shotting it through S-curves or switchbacks. But there's ALSO no denying the COST and dedication needed to keep such a machine maintained.

It just so happens...I decided, I'm too old to be throwing the leg over the tippy-tall GS; and I've become too poor to afford a toy I can't much play with. So I'm finding another way...

...but my memories of the BMW bike are not contemptuous. Not at all...I'd do it again.
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:28 PM   #8
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You could always buy a few BMW decals.
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:38 PM   #9
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You could always buy a few BMW decals.
I've never been a big fan of Brand Names.

Never understood why Harley guys need the Magic Brand all over all their clothes...even their cars and trucks...bath towels...

I didn't seek status from the brand. I was impressed with the design...the Boxer engine; shaft drive. A gearbox with a solid feel. A dry clutch.

Honda used to have some engineering; with their CX500s and in-line four engines. But they went with parodies of Harleys...everybody wants a Harley; everybody wants a bike that makes your ass hurt and numbs your hands and makes you tired after twenty minutes of it.

Either that or a Gold Wing; a car on two wheels.

I chose a different way; but unfortunately, the brand name had gotten just too important for that line, also. Maybe BMW will sell some of THEIR old designs to the Chinese...I could get into an R50 clone...
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:44 AM   #10
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I chose a different way; but unfortunately, the brand name had gotten just too important for that line, also. Maybe BMW will sell some of THEIR old designs to the Chinese...I could get into an R50 clone...

Have you seen these?

http://www.chang-jiang.com/bmw/motor-s.html
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I've never been a big fan of Brand Names.

Never understood why Harley guys need the Magic Brand all over all their clothes...even their cars and trucks...bath towels...

I didn't seek status from the brand. I was impressed with the design...the Boxer engine; shaft drive. A gearbox with a solid feel. A dry clutch.
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One thing I took issue with in the article:

He says, basically, since he's only on a scooter, he doesn't feel the need for good protection. Then he talks about the scooter being able to exceed 100MPH.

Does he think because he's on a scooter it's not going to hurt if he spills?
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:21 AM   #13
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One thing I took issue with in the article:

He says, basically, since he's only on a scooter, he doesn't feel the need for good protection. Then he talks about the scooter being able to exceed 100MPH.

Does he think because he's on a scooter it's not going to hurt if he spills?
Yea, I thought that was a hoot! DA.....

Back to the OP, I don't think the article said they were similar, the burgman and honda were just mentioned. Also, I saw $10,000, not $12,000. 60hp compared to 30some, hmmm....
That 575 lb, weight scared me!
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:34 AM   #14
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One thing I took issue with in the article:

He says, basically, since he's only on a scooter, he doesn't feel the need for good protection. Then he talks about the scooter being able to exceed 100MPH.

Does he think because he's on a scooter it's not going to hurt if he spills?
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:04 AM   #15
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Not until now.

Interesting. When they gonna publish prices, instructions on ordering?
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