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Old 05-02-2012, 06:33 PM   #1
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Scooter comparison

I have finally migrated to a new scooter for a variety of reasons. I passed on the Helix. I am now looking at a couple of new 2009 models. Any advice about which would be the better one. Both about the same price.
1. Kymco Super 8 150
2. Aprilla Sportcity 125

Just for going around town and some weekend back road adventures.

Thanks for advice and insight.

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Old 05-02-2012, 07:22 PM   #2
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Both great scooters....

The Kymco is a Chinese-built (not Taiwan) Kymco bike, but still a good one, backed by a 2 year warranty since youre buying new.

The Kymco tends to have a brick for a seat, and in the case of the 150 Super, there are some "wings" on each side near the floorboard that make it akward (for me) to get my feet on and off like at stoplights and such. Have you sat on one? Thats my only nit to pick with it, but from a practical standpoint, depending on yer foot size and type of riding you intend to do, can be a PITA.

The Sportcity is a an amazing scooter, italian flair, and italian "charm"....if you know what that means (maintenance costs, parts, fewer dealers to service).

Add in half the warranty of the KYMCO (1 yr v. 2) and the business-side of things make a better case for the asian Kymco. That being said, to me, there's nothing like an italian scooter.....warts and all. They are dependable, fun to ride, and durable but they have "needs".

You can't go wrong with either, which floats yer boat?
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:31 PM   #3
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Both good choices but chances are great you'll be wanting a 250 a few weeks after purchasing either of those. The extra 15-20mph and higher performance a 250 offers makes a huge difference in the capabilities of the Scooter.
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:48 PM   #4
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Both good choices but chances are great you'll be wanting a 250 a few weeks after purchasing either of those. The extra 15-20mph and higher performance a 250 offers makes a huge difference in the capabilities of the Scooter.
Not neccessarily, depends. I've had both in my garage at the same time and frankly in town nothing beats a 125. In many cities, scooterists swear by 50cc's!

Less is (often) more....
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:50 PM   #5
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have you considered the fly 150? love mine!
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Old 05-02-2012, 07:57 PM   #6
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have you considered the fly 150? love mine!
Good call.

I wonder how that stacks up pricewise with the recession-era 2009 bikes the OP is considering?

Although the Fly IS well priced.....
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Old 05-03-2012, 03:41 AM   #7
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Both good choices but chances are great you'll be wanting a 250 a few weeks after purchasing either of those. The extra 15-20mph and higher performance a 250 offers makes a huge difference in the capabilities of the Scooter.
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Not neccessarily, depends. I've had both in my garage at the same time and frankly in town nothing beats a 125. In many cities, scooterists swear by 50cc's!

Less is (often) more....
not trying to dogpile you, warney, but gogogordy nailed it pretty well.

i just traded a 400cc majesty for a Kymco Yager GT 200i (which is actually a 175) and couldn't be more pleased since the vast majority (98%+) of my riding is in town and the 175 handles it very well. i don't "do" interstate highways, but secondary roads limited to 55/60 speed limits aren't a problem for the Yager.
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:03 AM   #8
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A great deal of it depends on where you live , where I live any thing less than 250cc is suicidal .
Another thing you should consider is the weight of the scooter , the lighter the scooter the better
the chance you can get blown off the road . Also the more you can carry on your scooter , the more
you will use it . To many people buy motorcycles and scooters without a clue or plan , ask yourself
what you want the bike to do for you , and make damn sure it can before you buy it . For me personally
it’s about the luggage , in other words how much can I carry on it safely .


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Old 05-03-2012, 06:08 AM   #9
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You could always consider the elegance of a vintage Vespa.

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Old 05-03-2012, 06:28 AM   #10
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I would go with the Kymco if it fit me. just because i think it would be simpler to work on and get parts for. and fairly inexpensive to own and operate. and there is a tuner community for it. it's punchy, too.

we all know of a very active user here who rides the heck out of a Super 8 and a Sport City 250. he likes them both. but the Sport City 125 isn't the same bike, really. its not a Sport City 250 with a smaller engine, and it looks average in comparison. imo in pics and in person it looks to be decidedly downmarket of it's bigger sibling.

i know nothing of its performance, however. or its handling or comfort. or the Super 8 for that matter. but i know a little about scooters and ride them, and ....darn it! ok, i am not crazy about the styling of the Super 8, either! but imo it looks less cheap then the SC 125. i just think the Super 8 is over styled a bit.

here is a SC 50. i link a 50 because THIS is the same scooter as the 125 but with a smaller engine. look up the 125 and its the same

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photo...tcityOne50.htm

now the much stouter looking SC 250

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photo...ityCube250.htm

and the Super 8

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motor...Super8-150.htm

i say get the Super 8 but that is an admittedly shallow pov
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:44 AM   #11
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oh, and so far as engine size and all that? it's w/e you need. a 150 is plenty. and once the cc's start to climb many scooters lose the scooter in 'em :(

we scooterists have the Genuine Buddy 170i and Blur 220i. that is great. and some Kymco's, Syms, and a Vespa / Piaggio or two. a Zuma from Yamaha, nothing from Honda with small wheels and guts, and a maxi scoot from Suzuki

that leaves the Chinese :(

scooters are small and they have small engines. its a good thing. we urban riders? we don't need no stinkin' 250!
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Old 05-03-2012, 07:13 AM   #12
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As Dudeclone mentioned, there is someone on this forum with a Super 8 180 as well as a sport city 250 and that someone would be me

I have had the Super 8 for 17 months. I ride it almost every day, mostly short trips around town, and have nearly 6400 miles on it. I had a few minor problems with it but they were quickly taken care of under warrantee. If you want more info on how it works, check out my ride reports:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647784

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=670468

Can't comment on the Sport City 125 but my 250 has been trouble free except a leaking fork seal that was covered under warrantee. I have had it for a year and have put nearly 8800 miles on it. I prefer the 150 around town but the 250 is more versatile and more capable of long trips.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:42 AM   #13
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Been discussed before...
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549441
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:08 PM   #15
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Thanks

Thanks for all the information. I think I have settled on the Kymco. It is simpler in most respects, has a kick start as well as electric, twice the warrenty and 50 ccs more. I guess the Aprilla 125 is not moving as well and that is the reason the price was close to the Kymco.
I became interested in the Super 8 because of the ride reports of Klavitor. I have lived in middle Tennessee and western NC, so I was initially drawn to the ride repots for the journeys,but became facinated with machine.

I have been riding since 1959, every thing from a 37 Harley( as seen on Highway Patrol with Brodrick Crawford) to PC800 to a 1200 Sportster (felt like riding a pencil with a rocket). And everything in between. So I don't need power or speed at this point in my life, just something to run around on and an occasional ride in the country side to take pictures of cows and bluebonnets.

Thanks again for the input.

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