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Old 05-04-2012, 12:44 PM   #1
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Video of clutch problem HELP!

http://youtu.be/eduWLMPqcy8



I have had this clutch problem for a little while and it has become progressively worse. I replaced my slave cylinder with the updated one(which I think it was already the updated one) I even purchased the updated push rod(which was aready the upgraded one). I pulled the clutch apart and inspected it. There is plenty of oil in there. The EBC clutch only has about 1000 miles on it. I also cleaned the oil jet which was clean by the way, after 31k miles. I put fresh 5w fork oil in the clutch after flushing it and still got problems. Maybe this video will shed some light?
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:07 PM   #2
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The noise changes when you are pulling in and releasing the lever?
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:16 PM   #3
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correct. In the video I am pulling in the clutch and releasing it a few times.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:49 PM   #4
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correct. In the video I am pulling in the clutch and releasing it a few times.
It's normal behavior for multi-plate clutches...pulling the lever in unloads the clutch plates, so the rattle changes.

Are there any real problems/symptoms to contend with?.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:04 PM   #5
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Yes I can't put it into gear. When I push down on the gear shifter with the clutch full engaged it jumps forward and dies as if the clutch was not engaged at all. I have a feeling mobile 1 is a bad choice..
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:21 PM   #6
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How did you bleed the clutch master/slave?
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:44 PM   #7
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I have a feeling mobile 1 is a bad choice..
Don't want to turn this into an oil thread, but I run mobil-1 silver cap (auto) in all my ktms. Never had an issue.

I'd tend to assume issue is elsewhere.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:14 PM   #8
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Don't want to turn this into an oil thread, but I run mobil-1 silver cap (auto) in all my ktms. Never had an issue.

I'd tend to assume issue is elsewhere.
Same, no probs with Mobil 1 auto oil int he KTM.

Cleaned the clutch jet?
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5w fork oil in the clutch line or in the plates?
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Cleaned the clutch jet?
first post: "I also cleaned the oil jet which was clean by the way, after 31k miles"

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5w fork oil in the clutch line or in the plates?
I took it to mean 5w in the clutch line, in place of mineral oil
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:24 PM   #11
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Wouldn't that be the issue? Cause clutch sounds fine, From his description it sounds like clutch isn't engaging (lurching when he puts it in gear and stalling). 5w fork oil to thick?

Sorry, I'm learning as well

Ball bearing in the slave missing?
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Wouldn't that be the issue? Cause clutch sounds fine, just sounds like clutch isn't engaging (lurching when he puts it in gear and stalling). 5w fork oil to thick?

Sorry, I'm learning as well
I think Magura mineral oil is nominally a 7 weight. If he's using 5 weight as the hydraulic fluid it'll be fine.

No need for a sorry, was an ok question
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I think Magura mineral oil is nominally a 7 weight. If he's using 5 weight as the hydraulic fluid it'll be fine.

Missing the ball bearing in slave maybe?
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:45 PM   #14
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Fork oil is not in the motor it is in replacement of the mineral oil which is a known failure. I bleed the hell out of the clutch. Clutch feels good. As soon as I pull in the clutch it starts clacking and does not engage?
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Did you bleed from the bottom up?
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