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Old 06-21-2012, 06:09 PM   #121
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I'm jealous walkingbear !!

What where you going to do to finish the outside exterior of the block?

Think you mentioned a stucco finish.

What are you going to finish the inside of the block with? Epoxy paint????
Stucco to the outside to match the main house.


Inside is up for discussion.
In the back area where the semi office will be .. most a light color sealing paint like the one used by hospitals. (Ben Moore product) in the garage main area a clear sealant..or a light color paint. Upstairs a more finished look. Tile in the bathroom, bamboo flooring and finished dryway in the north wall, stubs walls to stairs and ceiling.

We are going to have a concrete pad in front (26 x 30) so the kids can ride there bikes/trikes and play there (away from the street and near the playground equipment.

Evening Pictures. Something about the setting sun and the shadows that gives it life







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Old 06-22-2012, 07:03 AM   #122
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IT professionals.. I have a question

I have a question on my garage build. How to run the existing wireless network from my main house to the garage.

In my house I have an apple extreme in the center of the house and two apple express on each end. I'm hoping to replacing one of the express with an extreme and place the express in the garage. The garage is 45' from the new extreme. Will this work?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:11 AM   #123
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Monday was a day of meetings
7:30 pool guy, we decided to destroy the existing pool and build a new one. The existing pool was not little one friendly. New design to take advantage of the view and get away from the trees ( they drop a lot of leafs into the pool) A built in pool cover will also help in
evaporation control.


106 today and windy. Really hot.


When you prevent the evaporation with your new pool cover, you will also increase the water temperature. Probably not desirable in AZ.

Has the builder suggested a solar system to be used for nocturnal cooling?

Something to think about.

Nice garage you're building there!


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Old 06-22-2012, 08:29 AM   #124
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Wow! Now that is a real "cave"!

Will it be for private use or bussiness use also? If it is for just personal use, wouldn't be better to have it built with half the height of the first level underground to keep it naturally cooled?

Will you use wind generators and solar panels to generate energy? The cave seems wonderfull already, but since you went that deep into your pockets, in your place I would go for an all self sufficient building in both energy and water aspects.

PS: Oh I forgot the basics... where will the beer cooling mechanism be installed?
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:33 AM   #125
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When you prevent the evaporation with your new pool cover, you will also increase the water temperature. Probably not desirable in AZ.

Has the builder suggested a solar system to be used for nocturnal cooling?

Something to think about.

Nice garage you're building there!


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we are looking at different options for cooling and most effective cool method during the night is running the pool filtering at low speeds. It's been hot here and the water temp is 82. Later on this summer it will be in the high 80's we have a small pool not (11,000 gals) the next pool will be 18000 gal or just a bit bigger. Solar tubes really doesn't help with a larger pool. Water features are the most effective way of cooling water during the day use. We have a propane heater for the winter and the real savings in retaining heat is a pool cover.

Secondary reason for the pool cover : We have small childern
and this will serve as a second layer of protection behind the pool fencing.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:49 AM   #126
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solar and for private pleasure use

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Will it be for private use or bussiness use also? If it is for just personal use, wouldn't be better to have it built with half the height of the first level underground to keep it naturally cooled?

Will you use wind generators and solar panels to generate energy? The cave seems wonderfull already, but since you went that deep into your pockets, in your place I would go for an all self sufficient building in both energy and water aspects.

PS: Oh I forgot the basics... where will the beer cooling mechanism be installed?

We are at the lowest point on the lot. We regraded the wash lines.
The garage is for my retirement pleasure use. The casitas upstairs will become the guest room /office. We looked into the wind generators and solar panels in the beginning. My designer is a green advocate. The souther roof line is being built with solar to be added on at a later date. The materials we used were chosen for their R factors and we placed the garage to take advantage of the shade trees on the west side. The north side we placed the garage door, the east side have low E windows and will have reflective film on them. The only hot side would be the South. We went from three windows to two and this is the only room we will have with air conditioning. We are placing two ceiling fans in this 16 x 35 space and we should be cool enough.

The garage will have insulation under the roof and the walls are rated R45.

The beer cooler (drink cooler ) is in the garage. I kept the cooler from the days of owning a health club. I can hold 120 beers or drinks.

Watering will be using backwash from the new pool into a holding tank and will water the landscape and new veggie garden.
We are planting low use desert plants and after a few years they will
take very little water.

I planned this build for 10 months. We looked at different materials
Adobe would have been the next choice but that had some drawbacks since we are in the wash area. 100 year storm could flood the lower level . Water and adobe doesn't not play well together.
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:48 AM   #127
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That thing looks great!

Would love to ride out for your airhead tech day to see it..... And go to Waffle House!

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Old 06-22-2012, 10:08 AM   #128
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I have a question on my garage build. How to run the existing wireless network from my main house to the garage.
Any way to run a CAT 5 cable from the house to the new garage?
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:14 AM   #129
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we are looking at different options for cooling and most effective cool method during the night is running the pool filtering at low speeds. It's been hot here and the water temp is 82. Later on this summer it will be in the high 80's we have a small pool not (11,000 gals) the next pool will be 18000 gal or just a bit bigger. Solar tubes really doesn't help with a larger pool. Water features are the most effective way of cooling water during the day use. We have a propane heater for the winter and the real savings in retaining heat is a pool cover.

Secondary reason for the pool cover : We have small childern
and this will serve as a second layer of protection behind the pool fencing.

I agree the most effective cooling method is water features / aeration / and circulating the pool. All those methods normally require the cover to be left open, at least partially. Changing the water's phase from a liquid to a gas requires heat, hence the best cooling.

I may be wrong, but the only method of cooling, and keeping the cover completely closed is using solar panels to radiate heat to the sky at night Least amount of evaporation too.

Maybe building a waterfall that drops down into a trough of stones.. The waterfall would aerate and cool the water the stones in the trough would allow water collection without the fear of little ones falling in. Creating a large surface area with a seperate pump to run at night on a temperature needed basis.. Easy to do.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:17 AM   #130
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I have a question on my garage build. How to run the existing wireless network from my main house to the garage.

In my house I have an apple extreme in the center of the house and two apple express on each end. I'm hoping to replacing one of the express with an extreme and place the express in the garage. The garage is 45' from the new extreme. Will this work?
Line of sight only. The stone is going to kill the signal.

Better to trench some CAT-6 for a gigabit link back to the house. ~$100 worth of wire.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:23 AM   #131
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Line of sight only. The stone is going to kill the signal.

Better to trench some CAT-6 for a gigabit link back to the house. ~$100 worth of wire.

When when pulled the electrical wires for the panel we had a low voltage line pulled also. We are planning to cat-6 the garage. The main house doesn't have an ethernet junction near by. We would need a new router from COX to do what we need.
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I agree the most effective cooling method is water features / aeration / and circulating the pool. All those methods normally require the cover to be left open, at least partially. Changing the water's phase from a liquid to a gas requires heat, hence the best cooling.

I may be wrong, but the only method of cooling, and keeping the cover completely closed is using solar panels to radiate heat to the sky at night Least amount of evaporation too.

Maybe building a waterfall that drops down into a trough of stones.. The waterfall would aerate and cool the water the stones in the trough would allow water collection without the fear of little ones falling in. Creating a large surface area with a seperate pump to run at night on a temperature needed basis.. Easy to do.
We are in the design phase. We have addressed the cool aspects, the junk from the trees and evaporation. There is an catch system that could run around the pool that will cool the water down before going into the pumps.

Lots of good ideas . ..thanks
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The main house doesn't have an ethernet junction near by. We would need a new router from COX to do what we need.
I doubt that. Ethernet is good ~300ft. If you can do so, take the line from the cave and pull all the way through the house to the Airport Extreme. Maybe move the cable modem drop to a more convenient location?
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I doubt that. Ethernet is good ~300ft. If you can do so, take the line from the cave and pull all the way through the house to the Airport Extreme. Maybe move the cable modem drop to a more convenient location?

Talked to apple yesterday about hooking up in series. They believed that
I could connect a set up another wireless r extreme (at the junction box )and connect the ethernet wire to it .. and add an express to the opposite wall of the garage I would be ok. He also suggested that I should upgrade my speed since this will slow everything down.
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Friday 2 month mark

Today, we had to wait for material. There has been a run on roof trusses
and the delivery times has been pushed from 10 days to 3 weeks.

Tom (GC) and I went over plans. They forgot to build a window in the upstairs bathroom ( will cut a 2 x4 window for light and air.

Working on types of doors, full panel glass or solid core.

Re-config the stairs to up the second level. Increase the size of the landings and decreased the rise of the step to 7 inch instead of 8.

We are wondering if I should build out a small office downstairs. (12x12) since I will be spending most of the time there ..during the day and leaving the upstairs mostly as guest room /music room / football room.
My wife think the small room would be great and I could AC the upstairs that little office.

Picked the roofing tile today> It will match our current tile.,( eagle cement product that will have built in slots for Solar when we decide to install.)

Flooring for the upstairs over the joist are TG 2inch thick pines (6 inch wide) glued and screwed to the joist. We are going to sand and seal (natural wood) Going to be a bohemian look.

Thrift store shopping today. Missed out on 3 reclining movie chairs...
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