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Old 04-25-2013, 09:49 PM   #916
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I debated whether to post this or not, as it's a single frame, but I did play with it in photoshop using tonemapping and shadow/highlight, but I like the way it turned out.
I'd like to do more HDR photography, unfortunately my camera only does 3 frame bracketing.

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:21 PM   #917
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I just think that the use of the term HDR for anything that is tonemapped (blame Trey!!!) is the reason HDR has got such a bad name.
Technically, you are correct. But be careful when you nitpick, as it can, and frequently will, backfire on you. Just sayin'.

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As soon as it became popular on the net people started churning out single jpg HDRs that were best described as clown vomit. I am not one of those people who insist on 100% photorealisim but im sure you know the type of images I mean.
"Clown vomit" can be churned out in disgusting volumes via a variety of methods, thanks to the proliferation of digital cameras with oodles of gigabytes of memory and programs like Photomatrix and Photoshop. But it is not exclusive to such. Some people can produce clown vomit with the barest necessities.

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The reason I really don't like the term is it is used to describe any image processed by HDR software now. There is non HDR software for example Topaz Adjust which are designed for tonemapping single images. Topaz adjust does not have HDR capability (cannot work on an HDRi file or merge images). It just tonemapped single images for effect. The result is that with a single jpg you are doing exactly the same thing using topaz adjust or with photomatix. Guess which one is called HDR and which isnt? If just running an image through the right program makes it HDR I could write a script that would run my whole image library through photomatix on the default setting and make my whole library HDR! In face my HDR images might come out as HHDR! It just diminishes the effort made by people doing "proper" HDR using tripods, shutter releases, calculating the amount of exposures needed etc etc then spending tones of time in photomatix/photoshop trying to fix all the imperfections and make a realistic looking image.
The purist will always look down on someone doing similar work by a simpler method. What matters to the viewer is the end result, not the method by which it was accomplished. And clearly, some viewers prefer extreme HDR/tonemapping effect while others prefer that such processes not be noticeable. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Anyway bitching aside as long as people are enjoying the images they are making it doesn't really matter. This thread has made me want to go out and takes some photos now, TGIF
In the end, I will continue to call the photos that I put through Photomatix "HDR's" whether they are tonemapped, fused images, or technically correct High Dynamic Range composites. Reason: It's a heck of a lot quicker to type "HDR" than "tone-mapped".
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:04 AM   #918
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Those kind people at Photomatix gave me a free licence for Pro. At last an advantage to working in Arts education. Any teachers/lecturers/instructors out there automatically get a 60% discount - which brings Pro down to the price of Essentials. If you teach/instruct photography (or as in my case) graphic design, you might well get a free licence. I know you can pick up a hack licence easily, but I always prefer to 'pay the price' for useful software so development can take place.

I've got to say, I'm really inspired by all your HDR'd pics, even the 'over-processed' ones :-) I just need to get out and take some photos to experiment with now!


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Old 04-26-2013, 09:13 AM   #919
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:11 PM   #920
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:24 PM   #921
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:27 PM   #922
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Don't sweat it. Your photo looks good. For me, the technical details of HDR aren't my thing - only that the photo looks good.

I've seen some that look life-like, others that look like water color paintings. Right or wrong, if the scene and effect looks good, it's successful.



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I debated whether to post this or not, as it's a single frame, but I did play with it in photoshop using tonemapping and shadow/highlight, but I like the way it turned out.
I'd like to do more HDR photography, unfortunately my camera only does 3 frame bracketing.

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Old 04-28-2013, 09:50 AM   #923
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While out riding yesterday, I decided to take a few shots with my little point and shoot camera. I'm not gonna take my dslr out on the road.
Anyhow, I have been using Nik(Google) HDR Efex Pro for a while as I wasn't to pleased with the Photomatix Essentials I had been using. I recently splurged and bought the Photomatix Pro. So, here are a few comparison shots processed in each program.

These are single exposure jpegs.
1. HDR Efex Pro

2. Photomatix Pro
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:53 AM   #924
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Second set. I notice from using both programs a lot, that Photomatix gives a particular effect with the lighting. HDR Efex Pro seems to produce more 'natural' looks.

1. HDR Efex Pro


2. Photomatix Pro
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:56 AM   #925
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And the last set for comparison.

1. HDR Efex Pro


2. Photomatix Pro


I find I use both programs for different effect. Just more tools in the toolbox.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:04 AM   #926
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I find I use both programs for different effect. Just more tools in the toolbox.
I absolutely agree. Nice set crazyman.



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I debated whether to post this or not, as it's a single frame, but I did play with it in photoshop using tonemapping and shadow/highlight, but I like the way it turned out.
I'd like to do more HDR photography, unfortunately my camera only does 3 frame bracketing.

blue72beetle, That is a perfectly cool use of HDR. The bike is sitting in the shadows and the background is lit by sunlight. The original probably looked pretty uninteresting. Very nice processing.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:28 AM   #927
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I shot a few more recently.
VERY creative use of HDR

Reality becomes part of the mural.

I'm just telling you straight up I'm going to steal this idea and try something similar myself

Been looking at this thread off and on and find the photos interesting as well as the debate as to what HDR "really" is and its legitimacy. Experimented a bit myself with it on landscape scenes thinking it would be my answer to the Dynamic Range limitations of cameras I've previously owned. I think I like both, the "fanatasy" type of processing as well as the "real". My own personal definition of "real" would be the ones where I can't tell it's HDR, which is what I was striving for and never quite got there. My current camera has enough DR in the raw files to pull shadows and tame highlights for what I do, so I kind of got out of HDR, but really enjoy looking at these.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:37 AM   #928
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Thanks Desert Dave. If I were to shoot that mural again, I would position my bike to the other side of the painted one and would assume the same pose as the cowboy as though we were racing.

EDIT: BTW your photography is excellent. I would love to start seeing some HDRs from you.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:00 PM   #929
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Thumb Two Exteme Examples, Both Good!

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A great example of different ways of processing HDR's, each with its own appeal.
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