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Old 06-22-2015, 07:27 AM   #1
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OK, so now after copious amounts of reading, I'm looking at a KLR with the doohickey mod, 688cc engine upgrade and possibly a gearing change. I'd like to hack this hot-rod to a DMC M72B sidecar. How would the performance of said hot-rod, stack up against a Ural cT in stock trim?

P.S. this is NOT troll bait. I'm actually considering this vs. a Ural.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:55 AM   #2
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Adding a big fiberglass tub is not going to help performance, consider a lighter simpler sidecar Sputnik or Enduro design.DB
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:16 PM   #3
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I've had 2 KLR's with Sputnik cargo hacks, which are much lighter then the URal. That configuration made the KLR perform about the same as my Urals, but I could run 70 mph on the freeway. I did have to put heavy springs on the KLR to eliminate the waddleing.
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Old 06-22-2015, 06:57 PM   #4
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Hey Dennis, which springs did you put in the front forks?

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Old 06-22-2015, 07:40 PM   #5
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Hey Dennis, which springs did you put in the front forks?

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In the rear I used 500 lb. springs and in the front I put on a Leading Link fork set. I don't recall the brands.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:45 PM   #6
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I've got a 1999 KLR with a 692 kit in it that is attached to a Sputnik sidecar. It also has one tooth less than stock on the front sprocket.

Before the 692 upgrade the rig was a good cruiser at 55 to 60 mph until you encountered a strong head wind. Then you had to drop down to 4th gear and struggle to keep it above 50 mph. The 692 kit made a difference, but even with the light Sputnik sidecar you aren't going to be running 70 mph even on a good day.

That's why I put together my R1200GS/Dnepr rig!
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:51 PM   #7
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Cargos are fun!

Cargo haulers are fun, but definitely cut into fuel mileage with their flat front ends
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:24 PM   #8
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I have mine set up with a 14/45 gearing. Highway I'll cruise at 65 but like hdgypsyman said, headwind or hill climb you'll likely struggle. Wonderful set up and I'm currently looking into a 692 kit to get it a little more extra power.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:38 PM   #9
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On Hack Vendors Jay just announced he's got another container of Sputniks coming.
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Old 07-05-2015, 06:04 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=hdgypsyman;27055397]I've got a 1999 KLR with a 692 kit in it that is attached to a Sputnik sidecar. It also has one tooth less than stock on the front sprocket.

I'm looking into putting a sidecar on my KLR.

Questions for you:

1) How is that Sputnik sidecar? Size, durability, cost, ease of attachment, etc. Would you recommend a Sputnik? How does it compare to a Ural sidecar?

2) Where did you acquire that Sputnik sidecar?
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Old Yesterday, 04:50 AM   #11
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Sputnik sidecar

The Sputnik sidecar is a little smaller and lighter than the Ural or Dnepr sidecar. The Sputnik is all metal and easy to get in and out of because of the front end opening up. I am 6'2' tall and 200+ lbs. and I can ride comfortably in the sidecar. It is a good match in size for the KLR650. I found my outfit of KLR650 and Sputnik already assembled at a motorcycle dealer in Watertown South Dakota. I believe that it has a Dauntless Motors subframe and attaching kit. It seems to be a stout way to attach the sidecar and has been tested over many Southern Minnesota minimum maintenance and gravel roads. The only weakness that I have noticed on the sidecar is the stock shock which will bottom out easily with a full sized adult in the sidecar when going around left hand corners. I have talked to Jay at Dauntless Motors about it and I was told that in order to replace the shock the sidecar frame has to be modified to accept a more conventional style shock absorber. I have also been told that the stock Sputnik wheel assembly is not the best. I have replaced the wheel bearings on the wheel (common sealed bearings, preventative maintenance) and I have not had any issues with my wheel.
I don't have a Ural sidecar to compare it to, but I do have a Dnepr sidecar on a BMW R1200GS. The Dnepr and Ural are very similar except for the rear storage compartment. On the Dnepr it is accessed by folding the passenger seat back forward on the sidecar while the Ural has a top opening "trunk" lid. Both are larger in size and weight, and both have got more passenger room than the Sputnik. I think that the extra size and weight of the bigger sidecar on a light and relatively low powered KLR650 would definitely be noticed.
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Old Yesterday, 08:26 AM   #12
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Here's a link to another KLR/Sputnik outfit--

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1048624



If Jay actually has some NOS Sputniks coming available that might be the way to go. But he said he doesn't know what kind of condition they're in so maybe keep watching Craigslist eBay and USCA for a used one.
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Old Yesterday, 05:18 PM   #13
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DMC Enduro

I'm obviously a fan of going with the DMC Enduro set-up. IMO the other sidecar is too big and heavy, not as good a match.



I agree with hdgypsyman's comments - with a stock engine the KLR/DMC Enduro sidecar rig set-up is underpowered. A 14T front sprocket helps. I've gone to big bore/705cc, ported head, LeoVince X-3 exhaust, airbox "L" mod and K & N filter - MUCH better.

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Old Yesterday, 08:25 PM   #14
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Is not yet finished, but here is a work in progress. Building this 2011 KLR650 adventure hack for a planned South America ride next winter.
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