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Old 11-19-2014, 07:39 AM   #1
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Sidecar safety?

I'm usually a ATGATT type of guy on my 2 wheelers. On my Ural I've been tempted to go a bit lighter on the gear thinking that I'm not likely to lay it down. I know this is probably not a great idea. What are some of the types of accidents people have on side car bikes? I guess if someone runs into me I could still go flying off the bike the same as on a 2 wheeler.
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:49 AM   #2
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Subjective and personal opinion, but I see no reason for changing your approach to how much gear you wear (or don't wear), regardless if it is on two wheels or three. You are not in a car.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:20 AM   #3
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PM Drone. I'm pretty sure he was glad he had all his gear on.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:23 AM   #4
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My advice and the advice we give in the S/tep class is pretty much wear what you want to crash in as you do not have time to go home and change while crashing. For me this means at least a full face helmet. In a study which we use as part of the S/tep class it was found that 43% off all accidents involved the chin area which for me is why the full face helmet. Or put another way, its because I want a full face after the crash. If I am just running around town (25mph speed limits) I will wear just a good jacket and gloves but if I am leaving town I will be in full gear.
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:32 AM   #5
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I wear a full face helmet, riding boots, riding jacket with armour and riding pants. Even if im just riding into town to pickup some stuff, a crash can happen anywhere, people in cages just do not see us. I ride my rig off road a lot so all the gear is a must, just because we are on three wheels does not mean we don,t crash. diverdown
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:06 AM   #6
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For cold weather riding my warmest outfit is a Fieldsheer winter suit. It is very warm but not protective. That is what I've been wearing lately on the Ural along with helmet and boots.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:35 AM   #7
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I wear a full face helmet, riding boots, riding jacket with armour and riding pants. Even if im just riding into town to pickup some stuff, a crash can happen anywhere, people in cages just do not see us. I ride my rig off road a lot so all the gear is a must, just because we are on three wheels does not mean we don,t crash. diverdown
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I resist the temptation to wear less than ATGATT just because the well planted sidecar seems slower and safer somehow. I think the temptation is normal, but in reading about the mishaps of experienced sidecar operators it seems all of us are vulnerable to surprising mishaps. Be safe, Jim
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Old 11-19-2014, 10:15 AM   #8
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Wrecks I have experienced or witnessed:

Bike over sidecar=numerous
sidecar over bike=a couple
spun out=several
overshot braking distance=several
went wide into obstacle= numerous
went wide into traffic=several, but fortunately all near misses
misjudged width=numerous
endo over unexpected road imperfection=several
run over by traffic=none so far
run over foot because of dab while moving=several
run over foot because of dab while parking=several

All of these have been pilot error, several of these have resulted in injuries mitigated by proper gear, only three of these of these resulted in injuries requiring treatment(2 dabs and a bike over sidecar roll over). I have been very fortunate not to have witnessed or been involved in anything more serious. Shit happens. Stupid happens. it can happen to you. Really. Take that under advisement when choosing what gear to wear.
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:57 AM   #9
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This was posted in The perfect line and other riding myths

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Old 11-19-2014, 02:45 PM   #10
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Pfft saftey gear is over rated.

Generally I wear bare minimum. Shorts, thongs ( flip flops ), no gloves, wife beater ( sleeveless shirt ) and pudding basin skid lid with the lining removed to give that slimline look.








































p.s. Not what I normally wear.
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Old 11-19-2014, 05:42 PM   #11
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:04 PM   #12
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Still wear ATGAT driving a sidecar... I know that ATGATT is REALLY useful only for a light accident or to look nice on your hospital bed, or worst, but still it gives me a good conscience!! I may sound negative but last time I was ATGATT on my Commando and a young ass on his brand new 1198 missed a turn and crashed into me, all the gear all the time did not save me from seeing my femur though my kevlar BS pants nor my having my right humerus broken and loosing my radial nerve...
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:57 PM   #13
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I still dress for the fall....not the ride!
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:51 PM   #14
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I dress for the spring... brighter colors and better fashions.
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:28 PM   #15
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