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Old 10-04-2013, 12:14 AM   #1996
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Have had broken stuff on the Ural, they treated my like a king and all is right now. Love my Ural not gonna trash talk it even if it is not fast. Very hi smiles per mile.

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Old 10-04-2013, 07:51 AM   #1997
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Very hi smiles per mile.

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I think that pretty much sums it all up, right there.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:51 AM   #1998
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Own a 2008 BMW R1200R, own a 2010 Ural Taiga. Love them both and they both have their purpose. Don't write off the Ural. They're quirky, but as solid as any machine I've ever owned. Except my wifes 96 VW Cabrio, now that was a disaster, lol.

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Old 10-04-2013, 01:03 PM   #1999
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Own a 2008 BMW R1200R, own a 2010 Ural Taiga. Love them both and they both have their purpose. Don't write off the Ural. They're quirky, but as solid as any machine I've ever owned. Except my wifes 96 VW Cabrio, now that was a disaster, lol.

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Just curious how many here have had other sidecar outfits prior to the Ural and how many have a Ural plus another outfit. No motive for this question just curious. We considered becoming a Ural dealer a while back after they called us but didn't have the money to purchase the three they wanted to get into it. Just as well we are quite busy as is. I think Urals are cool and they are what they are. Newer ones have come a long way but it seems they are still not a simple gas and go type machine for many. Those who have been disappointed with them probably didn't expect this and all. Those who like them love them and ,yes, that's cool.
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:08 PM   #2000
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Just curious how many here have had other sidecar outfits prior to the Ural and how many have a Ural plus another outfit. No motive for this question just curious. We considered becoming a Ural dealer a while back after they called us but didn't have the money to purchase the three they wanted to get into it. Just as well we are quite busy as is. I think Urals are cool and they are what they are. Newer ones have come a long way but it seems they are still not a simple gas and go type machine for many. Those who have been disappointed with them probably didn't expect this and all. Those who like them love them and ,yes, that's cool.
Fair question. The Ural was my introduction to sidecars due to affordable price and the 2wd potential on trails (note I did not say off road).

I now have hacked the ST for my wife's comfort for longer highway trips but I doubt I would have started down the sidecar path without the Ural due to the high cost and complications of having a hack mounted to an existing bike.

The Ural lives at our rural weekend home where it will still be thrashed about on the back roads and trails.

Sends shivers up my spine to say, but without the Ural, I might have ended up on a Canam Spyder..................
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:13 PM   #2001
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We bought a used 2007 Ural Tourist (1 wheel drive) as a fairly inexpensive way to see if a sidecar was a good fit for us. We used it for a year (about 5K miles) and sold it for what we paid for it. Current rig is a 2007 BMW R1200GSA with a DMC sidecar.
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Old 10-04-2013, 05:27 PM   #2002
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Do they sell the 2wd in a left hand chair setup, or is it only for the chair on the right?

This doesn't mean I'm coming to the dark side.

What sort of suspension upgrades are there?


Nope, still not crossing over...


Long range fuel tank options, you can only carry so many Jerry cans?


Performance (snigger) upgrades....are there?

Someone said they put GS airhead engines in them. Hard to do? On a modification scale of 1 to 10....1 being bolt on, and 10 involving pipe benders, a machine shop, a TIG, a book on frame building, and 8 cases of beer?
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Old 10-04-2013, 06:00 PM   #2003
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Do they sell the 2wd in a left hand chair setup, or is it only for the chair on the right?

This doesn't mean I'm coming to the dark side.

What sort of suspension upgrades are there?


Nope, still not crossing over...


Long range fuel tank options, you can only carry so many Jerry cans?


Performance (snigger) upgrades....are there?

Someone said they put GS airhead engines in them. Hard to do? On a modification scale of 1 to 10....1 being bolt on, and 10 involving pipe benders, a machine shop, a TIG, a book on frame building, and 8 cases of beer?
Only 8 cases of beer? :-)

I would think it would be easier to hang a hack on a GS than to wedge the GS drivetrain in a Ural.

Gas cans are easy, aux tank is only going to give you another gallon = another 30 miles.

As for performance, the 2014 are FI, so that is the best performance bump, with related beefed up parts to match ( final drive).
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:13 PM   #2004
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Just curious how many here have had other sidecar outfits prior to the Ural and how many have a Ural plus another outfit. No motive for this question just curious. We considered becoming a Ural dealer a while back after they called us but didn't have the money to purchase the three they wanted to get into it. Just as well we are quite busy as is. I think Urals are cool and they are what they are. Newer ones have come a long way but it seems they are still not a simple gas and go type machine for many. Those who have been disappointed with them probably didn't expect this and all. Those who like them love them and ,yes, that's cool.
Ural had warranty and I was afraid of unsafe backyard built rig. Since I bought a Ural my dad bought a Harley Davidson rig, I want a freeway flyer rig and another Ural to keep the Retro company, right tool for the job you know.

Ural rig and Harley rig are very different tools, Ural hack is more comfortable per my wife.

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Old 10-05-2013, 05:21 AM   #2005
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Just curious how many here have had other sidecar outfits prior to the Ural
My Ural is my first outfit. I looked around and the Ural was good value given performance wasn't an issue. I wanted something I wasn't afraid to work on since that is part of the ownership experience I wanted.

I bought a 2009 Tourist and am still in love! It certainly isn't for everyone, but that's ok; if it was maybe it wouldn't be right for me.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:52 AM   #2006
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The Ural is my first sidecar rig and the reason I wanted it was precisely because it is NOT a gas and go machine. I have another bike that is, and it has become boring. I wanted something different that needed more owner involvement and a chance to build up my shade tree mechanic repertoire. Mine certainly needs more attention than a modern bike, but has proved itself to be much more reliable than I had anticipated when I got it.
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Old 10-05-2013, 06:14 AM   #2007
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Just curious how many here have had other sidecar outfits prior to the Ural and how many have a Ural plus another outfit.
My Ural Yamal was my first sidecar outfit. Been riding bikes for 58 years and always wanted a hack so I bought one and am happy with the decision.


Went to a sidecar get together recently and noticed the Ural guys were out riding the gravel roads and the Goldwing,BMW, and Harley hack guys were sitting around bragging about riding the super slab going 80 MPH.
My Ural is hard pressed to do 65 MPH. But I don't need to do 65 MPH in the mountains of WNC.





Different strokes for different folks.
And definitely Urals are not for everyone.
I just did the 10k km service on mine and it was a lot.
I bet a dealer would have to charge an arm and a leg for the service.
Don't get one if you don't like to wrench.
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:36 AM   #2008
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The Ural is my first sidecar rig and the reason I wanted it was precisely because it is NOT a gas and go machine. I have another bike that is, and it has become boring. I wanted something different that needed more owner involvement and a chance to build up my shade tree mechanic repertoire. Mine certainly needs more attention than a modern bike, but has proved itself to be much more reliable than I had anticipated when I got it.
I guess you wont like the 2014's

No more need to,

set timing
adjust idle
set air screw
fine tune needles and jets
balance carbs
bed in brakes
adjust brakes
clean breather mist out of airbox
check and tighten wheel bearing retainers
fool with friction damper (replaced by 15 step adjustable hydraulic damper)

Basically it will be routine oil changes/lubrication, valve adjustments and air cleaner service. Using standard off the shelf automotive spin on oil filter and air filter element, even that will be easier and more economical.

IMO, With increased power, performance, higher quality components, reduced maintenance and mileage in the high 30's, a Ural will still be a Ural, but will have more general appeal.



I have ridden it twice, the difference is significant.

My 07 Patrol has almost 85,000 km on it.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:53 AM   #2009
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I guess you wont like the 2014's

No more need to,

set timing
adjust idle
set air screw
fine tune needles and jets
balance carbs
bed in brakes
adjust brakes
clean breather mist out of airbox
check and tighten wheel bearing retainers
fool with friction damper (replaced by 15 step adjustable hydraulic damper)

Basically it will be routine oil changes/lubrication, valve adjustments and air cleaner service. Using standard off the shelf automotive spin on oil filter and air filter element, even that will be easier and more economical.

IMO, With increased power, performance, higher quality components, reduced maintenance and mileage in the high 30's, a Ural will still be a Ural, but will have more general appeal.
windmill,
I am sold. 2012 Yamal for sale soon.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:37 PM   #2010
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[QUOTE=windmill;22485255]I guess you wont like the 2014's



I like them, but I don't want one.
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