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Old 12-07-2013, 08:17 AM   #2101
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Keep up

On the back or the Ural GU sidecar are the words ''KEEP UP''

BRO thought it funny to use that when out west in the back country. It's a wooden shingle that hangs off the back of the sidecar.

We have had a few DS riders greet us as ''Hey KEEP UP, didn't I see you in Chloride Canyon, etc.

It's more than a little funny now to have anyone take offense to something so light.

We look at things differently but still read the same words & think what we want.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:45 AM   #2102
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We have only your word on how the bike was ridden, so it becomes a simple choice wether to believe you or the guy many of us have personal experience with. Guess how that's going to go? Continual bleating is not helping your case, merely making you sound quite bokad-ish.
How could riding this GU, result in surface cracks under the spotlight mount become unacceptable ? How about it VP Jason ? If you used a dart board to select who was covered then I will accept that at ''drawing of the short straw''.

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Ask your question on SS. There are a cracks there two, both on Urals in & out of warranty....same location.

Having only my word ?.....there are a lot of ''words'' for warranty out there & some are getting answered w/ approval from ''upper Ural management''.

As for the OP of this tread, it was a good thing for Ural that he put up his experiences until his Patrol starting to fall apart. Had he been a better wrencher he may have become a new ''hero''.
But he really did have some issues w/ his rig, didn't he or was it only his word ? That should not be over looked.

Bash him from all sides & then he tried to respond & again it got on a personal note & moved away form the Ural break downs.

Now his name is used to slice into anyone who is not getting any answers from ''upper Ural management''.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:30 AM   #2103
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It might be mildly amusing, IF presented in the context quoted, but...
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On the back or the Ural GU sidecar are the words ''KEEP UP''

BRO thought it funny to use that when out west in the back country. It's a wooden shingle that hangs off the back of the sidecar.

We have had a few DS riders greet us as ''Hey KEEP UP, didn't I see you in Chloride Canyon, etc.

It's more than a little funny now to have anyone take offense to something so light.

We look at things differently but still read the same words & think what we want.
It was NOT presented in that context, but rather in reference to the conversation. If you aren't aware of this they you weren't paying attention. KEEP UP!


As for Bokad, and his legitimate mechanical issues; that wasn't why he's become a pariah. It was his evangelical style of expressing his opinion as fact.
There have been many people who have mentioned real mechanical issues, and an overwhelming majority have gone on to sing praises of "the industry's best warranty".

Using Bokad's name to "slice into anyone who is not getting any answers from 'upper Ural management' "? If the shoe fits, sir...
You DID get an answer, just not the one your opinion prescribed as "correct".
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:29 AM   #2104
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looking at this web page,at the lower right corner i saw ,,,,,141 added lines
and what it came in my mind,,,!!!
"again what was the problem !!!!!!!!!!"

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Old 12-07-2013, 12:12 PM   #2105
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JUST saw this thread. Back in '07 I did my second Alaska ride w/ a buddy on his new Ural, me on my '04 KLR650. (HIS first, and mine, were in '04 on Suzuki Bandit 1200S, his an '02 and mine an '04 - GREAT ride!)

Almost EVERY time we got a rain-shower, or he ran thru a puddle, the Ural quit running. We spent so much time beside the road w/ Joe taking his carbs apart, that I suggested he'd be better off buying a used Ford half-ton. That way he'd get BETTER gas mileage, and he'd have heat and tunes!

He waited several weeks in 100 Mile House, BC for carbs under warranty, then finally got back to Arkansas. His NEXT Ural adventure involved TRYING to ride the T.A.T., but two days west of home his Ural caught on fire and burned to the ground!

I, PERSONALLY, would never have one....
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:54 PM   #2106
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JUST saw this thread. Back in '07 I did my second Alaska ride w/ a buddy on his new Ural, me on my '04 KLR650. (HIS first, and mine, were in '04 on Suzuki Bandit 1200S, his an '02 and mine an '04 - GREAT ride!)

Almost EVERY time we got a rain-shower, or he ran thru a puddle, the Ural quit running. We spent so much time beside the road w/ Joe taking his carbs apart, that I suggested he'd be better off buying a used Ford half-ton. That way he'd get BETTER gas mileage, and he'd have heat and tunes!

He waited several weeks in 100 Mile House, BC for carbs under warranty, then finally got back to Arkansas. His NEXT Ural adventure involved TRYING to ride the T.A.T., but two days west of home his Ural caught on fire and burned to the ground!

I, PERSONALLY, would never have one....
Why was he always taking his carbs apart? Water getting in them? What mods did he do to his Ural?
And why did his Ural catch on fire?
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:55 PM   #2107
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Why was he always taking his carbs apart? Water getting in them? What mods did he do to his Ural?
And why did his Ural catch on fire?
Having ridden my 07 Patrol on a daily basis, year round, on and off road, in the Pacific Northwest for the past 6 years without water related issues, all I can wounder is what the actual issue was.
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:30 PM   #2108
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There is an interesting characteristic about internet vehicle forums. Rarely does a owner of (wxyz) vehicle ever get on the board and post: "Drove my (wxyz) today and it started, ran fine, nothing happened and I went home." However, warranty problems, major component failures and items or issues that the owner feels should have been covered are broadcast at full volume. I have seen examples of OEMs not standing behind their warranties, and I have seen just as many examples of dealers (and customers) bending the rules and getting parts and labor covered in instances of gross negligence and customer abuse. More importantly, I have seen dealers take the hit when the OEM did not stand behind their warranty so the customer was taken care of, in spite of the fact it hurt the dealerships bottom line. Just so they could save the relationship with the customer in spite of the OEM's refusal to help the customer.

I have worked for several of the largest OEMS in the power sports industry. Not dealerships, but the actual companies themselves. I have personally reviewed warranty claims where vehicles burned to the ground, engines self destructed with only several hours of operating time and suspension and drive train components failed while the vehicle was in operation and under warranty. In MOST of these examples, there was an operator behavior that contributed or caused these failures, but be damned if the customer would admit it. At least until the lawyers got involved and there was an in depth investigation. In those instances where it was clearly the OEM's (vehicle) fault, the owners vehicle was replaced, or money changed hands.

The point of this ramble is this: one or two lines on a forum stating: My "whizzle-framas" broke and they denied my warranty, don't ever trust or buy this brand of vehicle.... or "my cousins-uncles-brother was just riding in a field and the vehicle spontaneously combusted and burned to the ground, don't ever buy one, they're junk" is not telling the whole story. Doesn't matter if its (in this case) Ural, Honda, Harley, Polaris, Suzuki, KTM, whatever.

Some buyers are liars. Sorry if that comes across as cynical, but that's 20 years of industry experience talking.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:22 PM   #2109
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Drove my 2013 Ural Gear Up today and it started, ran fine, nothing happened, and I went home..........and then I rode it again later because it was so damn fun. It's truly amazing that this thread is still going. I haven't read every page of it, but I've read a lot of it. Some strong feelings on both sides. I ordered my Gear Up about two weeks ago in spite of all the naysayers. Picked it up yesterday and though two days of riding surely isn't going to reveal all the problems I "might" have in the future, I'm totally sold on the Ural product. Everything the dealer promised me he delivered on........ahead of schedule even. I bought a KTM last year and aside from one salesman, it was like a chain of people that seemed completely disinterested in my purchase experience. Nobody even went over the bike with me. They let me ride out of the parking lot on a death machine and weren't even sure I could ride. I'm not bagging on KTM here. I love the bike, just not crazy about the place I bought it. The Ural purchase was the complete opposite. Sure the dealer was kind of a weird dude, but the sale went like I imagined a motorcycle sale should go. The paperwork was uncomplicated and the dealer spent about an hour going over the bike with me. He then spent about half an hour making sure I could ride it without killing myself. I've been sneaking out of the house whenever I can because riding it and looking at it make me grin like an idiot.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:44 PM   #2110
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Drove my 2013 Ural Gear Up today and it started, ran fine, nothing happened, and I went home..........and then I rode it again later because it was so damn fun. It's truly amazing that this thread is still going. I haven't read every page of it, but I've read a lot of it. Some strong feelings on both sides. I ordered my Gear Up about two weeks ago in spite of all the naysayers. Picked it up yesterday and though two days of riding surely isn't going to reveal all the problems I "might" have in the future, I'm totally sold on the Ural product. Everything the dealer promised me he delivered on........ahead of schedule even. I bought a KTM last year and aside from one salesman, it was like a chain of people that seemed completely disinterested in my purchase experience. Nobody even went over the bike with me. They let me ride out of the parking lot on a death machine and weren't even sure I could ride. I'm not bagging on KTM here. I love the bike, just not crazy about the place I bought it. The Ural purchase was the complete opposite. Sure the dealer was kind of a weird dude, but the sale went like I imagined a motorcycle sale should go. The paperwork was uncomplicated and the dealer spent about an hour going over the bike with me. He then spent about half an hour making sure I could ride it without killing myself. I've been sneaking out of the house whenever I can because riding it and looking at it make me grin like an idiot.
Congrats on the new ride. I do the same thing (make up excuses to ride, sit in the garage and stare at it) as well as find little things to fiddle with. And mine is a clapped out 2007 that is sure to fall apart or catch on fire the next time I ride it. And I don't even have a warranty.(sarcasm)
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:21 AM   #2111
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if i may add ,
i saw many comments about rust on their Ural but
there is also a cure about that,it is call WAX .
i wonder how many owners are actually "waxing" their anvil,,,,as i call my Ural.

Also here we have an alternative about rust thats the venicules need to be spray with special oil under the car,pickup,,,inside doors to prevent rust too appear.i have apply myself this "special oil "under my sidecar and i can say that i dont regret it at all.it is like a coating of protection and this is whithout the goodness of waxing the paint of the motorcycle.

if you want to keep your Ural for a long time why just gave her a little TLC .

just my 2 cts

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Old 12-08-2013, 06:33 AM   #2112
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Waxing? Doesn't that require washing first?
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:27 AM   #2113
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Waxing? Doesn't that require washing first?
Nah, that is what spray wax is for.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:16 PM   #2114
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just old TurtleWax will do the job,,,:-)

in 4-5 years when i will repaint my 2007 ,surely i will use epoxy primer alone without paint..

The russian knows nothing about primer and good paint quality so far ,,,what i have seen from them.Maybe the 2013 where better but since we can still see rust like they have i have my dought.

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Old 12-08-2013, 07:35 PM   #2115
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It might be mildly amusing, IF presented in the context quoted, but...
It was NOT presented in that context, but rather in reference to the conversation. If you aren't aware of this they you weren't paying attention. KEEP UP!


As for Bokad, and his legitimate mechanical issues; that wasn't why he's become a pariah. It was his evangelical style of expressing his opinion as fact.
There have been many people who have mentioned real mechanical issues, and an overwhelming majority have gone on to sing praises of "the industry's best warranty".

Using Bokad's name to "slice into anyone who is not getting any answers from 'upper Ural management' "? If the shoe fits, sir...
You DID get an answer, just not the one your opinion prescribed as "correct".
You're mostly correct, but I would still like to know how is VP Jason sitting in WA & having the slightest knowledge of how any rider is riding their Ural...?

There is passion in me about this GU & even the 1st one we had. I have at all levels find this GU near perfect for our kind of riding, which is mostly in NM.

I found Bokad a colorful guy & still would like to meet him & learn what has become of his Patrol. For that matter I have never not cared to meet any Ural owner. I know my brother even invited him to FL for a stay at no expense.
Mainly to lessen the personal attacks effect.

Always thought he had every right to express himself in any manner & was surprised to see a band wagon of personal attacks.

When you think about riding a Ural GU in a manner for causing cracks under the spotlight, there should be a dozen other things falling off that GU. Our GU sits ready to go anywhere at near anytime. Only thing that is missing is the SC mud flap. But that may have been when it was stuck & had to be towed out. But still not sure about that.

More than anything I respect your view & your manner of putting it.
Much thanks.

Do let us know if you are ever in NM & in search of some good canyon riding.
Just finished going through Monticello Canyon & checking out the flash flood damage & the recent repairs, this night, 17-19 miles w/ well over 100 water crossings.
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