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Old 06-09-2012, 08:26 AM   #1
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KTM emissions label recall 2009,10,11

One of my riding partners and I just got letters from KTM USA for a emissions label recall for 2009/10/11 990s. It is a voluntary recall except in California where you won't be able to register the bike with out the new label and certificate. It doesn't mention a smog equipment inspection but I'll call my local dealer this week and see what they know
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:03 AM   #2
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all KTM's ?

I think it is most/all KTM's since I got that letter too for my 09 530. But since it's voluntary I don't think it will have any affect on the registration. Maybe if trying to bring an out of state bike in then maybe they will look for it. I don't know but I think I'll have it done just to avoid a possible problem in the future.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:24 AM   #3
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The letter also says stuff like "your right to participate in future recalls" and the kicker " failure to do so could legally be determined to b a lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle." Might as well get it done.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:00 AM   #4
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Cool2 TB1204 Emissions Compliance Sticker Recall

From the KTM TB1204 Bulletin:

"KTM North America in conjunction with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is
conducting a voluntary emission label recall involving the above listed models. A printing
error may be found on the Vehicle Emission Control Information (VECI) and Evaporative
Control (EVAP) labels, stating the wrong engine, permeation and evaporative families.
Replacement of the labels is mandatory and must be done to ensure proper compliance
with government regulations.


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But since it's voluntary
KTM is voluntarily participating with California (not you)... as opposed to being ordered. It is mandatory (for us dealers) that the customer is contacted and the stickers are replaced

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I don't think it will have any affect on the registration. Maybe if trying to bring an out of state bike in then maybe they will look for it. I don't know but I think I'll have it done just to avoid a possible problem in the future.
The TB1204 recall to replace your sticker might not seem like a big deal but many states now require this sticker to be on the vehicle to be inspected by DMV officer or qualified State Inspection station (in some cases yearly). Those that don't currently will be soon as each state moves into national compliance with emissions & registration on the DMV National Database, and of course, legislates another way to hit us with a fee or penalty. So registration & renewal now is affected as well as selling the bike later.

In some cases, a photograph will do with it in position on the frame. There have been inmates in trouble when they tried to register the bike and their cables/hoses have rubbed the printing off the sticker or destroyed it altogether. I wrap mine with high-quality 3M clear packing tape to protect it for future use...

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I think it is most/all KTM's
The vehicles covered are indeed over several year span however it in no way is "most/all". We've sold hundreds of bikes over the span of this recall and have less than 20 vehicles that fall under TB1204.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:08 PM   #5
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Emissions Label recall

I just called my dealer and was told that this is only a sticker swap deal. There is no inspection. They did require an appointment, and the swap should take 20-30 minutes. The dealer is Thousand Oaks Powersports. Sounds simple enough. (This will be the only time this particular service department ever sees my bike).

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Old 06-09-2012, 12:23 PM   #6
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" Important message for California residents
The California Air Resources Board (CARB) requires vehicle emissions label recalls be completed prior to California registration renewal. Uncorrected emission label recalls will result in the inability to renew your California vehicle registration.
At the time of emission label recall completion, your California authorized KTM dealer will issue a "Proof of correction certificate".
Keep this certificate and if required present it the Department of Motor vehicles when renewing your registration as proof of recall completion."

I had a similar recall happen to a Ford diesel I used to own, for a required ECU reflash for California emissions.
At the time some owners weren't happy with the trucks performance after the reflash so many owners didn't have it done and the California DMV and CARB held up registration renewal until completed.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:24 PM   #7
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I just called my dealer and was told that this is only a sticker swap deal. There is no inspection. They did require an appointment, and the swap should take 20-30 minutes. The dealer is Thousand Oaks Powersports. Sounds simple enough. (This will be the only time this particular service department ever sees my bike).

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Old 06-09-2012, 12:53 PM   #8
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I just called my dealer and was told that this is only a sticker swap deal. There is no inspection. They did require an appointment, and the swap should take 20-30 minutes. The dealer is Thousand Oaks Powersports. Sounds simple enough. (This will be the only time this particular service department ever sees my bike).

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Sticker swap? Why can't they just put the new one on top of the old one?
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Old 06-09-2012, 06:03 PM   #9
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because...

this would make sense. And we can't have the state involved and have it make sense too.

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Old 06-14-2012, 04:07 PM   #10
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It's the stupidest thing I've heard as far as recalls go. Most affected models are several years old by now. It would have been easier to just tell whomever "if you see this, it's wrong. Use these numbers.".
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It's the stupidest thing I've heard as far as recalls go. Most affected models are several years old by now. It would have been easier to just tell whomever "if you see this, it's wrong. Use these numbers.".



But then how would CARB justify their continued existence?
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:47 PM   #12
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Just called on mine.

"Oh yeah, we have those in stock, no problem..."

The dealer is an hour away, so we will see.

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Old 06-14-2012, 05:05 PM   #13
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Yeah...I got the notice as well.
I guess I'll take hours out of a day to go down and have the dealer put a new sticker on. I know this is very important to assure clean air standards.

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Old 06-14-2012, 07:28 PM   #14
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Try a 9 hour round trip to my closest dealer! Send me the sticker! I think I can handle it from there...


Will have to see if they will be willing to do that...
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:34 PM   #15
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Done

There are (4) four stickers on the bike--(3) three under the seat & (1) under the right side tank. guess which one need to be replaced

Yep the 15-minute replacement sticker takes 2.5 hr from arrival at dealer to completion for CARB compliance.

& heres the kicker you have to have the sticker verified for VIN# then KTM overnites the sticker to the dealer for replacement, so two trips to the dealer just so the commiefornia bikes can be registered on the left coast.
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