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Old 12-17-2014, 09:00 AM   #1
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:18 AM   #2
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It's sickening to think that all the places mentioned were totally open for years and years without a problem.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:27 AM   #3
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I posted a reply...
"Likely these are riders on through routes. Plated motorcycles either in groups or alone, explore the old dirt routes that have existed for decades. You quote Center for Biological Diversity like they are some kind of legitimate entity. Those people are the scum of the earth, thousands of fake lawsuits, eco-terrorism, you name it.
More false BS reporting. There's nothing wrong with the CA desert - a few motorcycles aren't 'ruining it'. And the numbers are not even close to 30,000 - maybe try a few dozen.
And yep, the solar and wind projects do a hundred times more damage than any group of offroad riders. OMFG."
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:42 AM   #4
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"Likely these are riders on through routes. Plated motorcycles either in groups or alone, explore the old dirt routes that have existed for decades. You quote Center for Biological Diversity like they are some kind of legitimate entity. Those people are the scum of the earth, thousands of fake lawsuits, eco-terrorism, you name it.
More false BS reporting. There's nothing wrong with the CA desert - a few motorcycles aren't 'ruining it'. And the numbers are not even close to 30,000 - maybe try a few dozen.
And yep, the solar and wind projects do a hundred times more damage than any group of offroad riders. OMFG."
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:02 AM   #5
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:16 AM   #6
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JTworker and Dan Patterson have their agendas.

Probably neither has spent any appreciable amount of time in the actual deserts they are referring to or have any idea what they are talking about.

The left talking points are all well laid out and documented for the lemmings to use at will to sound like they care or have any clue about the environment.

The story starts off like 30,000 orv were trespassing and illegally riding in the desert of thanksgiving, when really only a very small percentage were in areas that are not open to riding now.

Also of the 30,000 "off-road vehicles" that they mention, how many are street legal. Therefore can ride most places anyways?

I like that this last paragraph:
"While there are numerous threats to the public lands resources in the California deserts, ORV use is one that can be and must be controlled to protect our precious wildlife, rare plants, and air and water quality. Public lands are for all the public, not just one type of motorized recreation that destroys them."

Yes, orv can be controlled unlike the government taking open public lands and then selling them to their political contributors and private companies to make money from.

The center for biological diversity is anything but an environmental watchdog group. They are a bunch of attorneys living off our court system.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:47 AM   #7
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damn. 30,000 riders. that's a hellova ho down!
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Probably just the street legal ktms ruining it for the regular off-road guys.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:50 PM   #9
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we should go on a witch-hunt for anything colored orange
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:12 PM   #10
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Probably just the street legal ktms ruining it for the regular off-road guys.
Sean don't be a hater, one day you'll be able to afford one
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:27 PM   #11
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That is about what I observed leaving Ridgecrest just after Thanksgiving. It was a zoo.

Clearly saw dust from riders on non-designated dirt roads in a very clearly marked area. Then came to about 20 motorcycles and side by sides driving down shoulder of highway kicking up rocks and dust. Not sure their intention, ticket is the exact same on paved highway or the shoulder.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:32 PM   #12
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The story starts off like 30,000 orv were trespassing and illegally riding in the desert of thanksgiving, when really only a very small percentage were in areas that are not open to riding now.
Actually the story started off:
"About 30,000 off-road vehicles descended on the Mojave Desert in California over Thanksgiving weekend this year, and many of those off-road vehicles ended up out of bounds in places they shouldn't have gone"
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:42 PM   #13
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Another biased article written by someone who has an agenda.

Personally, I wish more efforts would be focused on targeting illegal dumping and the trash left behind by iresponsible shooters. That is more permanent than a few bike tracks.

Also would really like to know how many of these infractions were related to UTV's.
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Are we on a first name basis?
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:59 PM   #15
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Are we on a first name basis?
Absolutely, sean & shawn. Just spelled differently
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