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Old 05-22-2014, 08:23 AM   #1
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Hover Bike

Anyone ordered their new bike yet? It would appear they are taking deposits at this time. Looks pretty cool

http://www.hover-bike.com

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Old 05-22-2014, 08:29 AM   #2
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It's bad enough when stuff goes wrong on a motorcycle.

I don't want to be at 2000 ft AGL and have something go wrong.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:36 AM   #3
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It doesn't go more that a couple feet off the ground.


Nice, but $80K ????
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It doesn't go more that a couple feet off the ground.


Nice, but $80K ????
Hover (out of ground effect) - >10,000ft (estimated)
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Just saw that.

Then this is very different from any other hover-type vehicle. More like an unconventional aircraft.
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:21 AM   #6
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generally...you'll be able to go high enough and fast enough to kill yourself, and whomever you run into, but probably not high enough for a parachute to be of much use. I'm sure it'll do great.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:35 AM   #7
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If you want to fly it in the US the FAA (insert other country/aviation authority here as appropriate) is gonna have their say first, including requiring a pilot's license of some type. As described that ain't a hover nothing. That's an aircraft. I bet it gets qualified as a rotor craft (helicopter).
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:18 AM   #8
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If you want to fly it in the US the FAA (insert other country/aviation authority here as appropriate) is gonna have their say first, including requiring a pilot's license of some type. As described that ain't a hover nothing. That's an aircraft. I bet it gets qualified as a rotor craft (helicopter).
It will, more than likely, be classified as an ultralight and, therefore, not require any licensing.
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It will, more than likely, be classified as an ultralight and, therefore, not require any licensing.
Some countries require a pilots license or permit (I know the US doesn't) of some nature, even for ultralights. And if it is class ultralight, it loses any utilitarian use by FAA definition...admittedly for most that will not be an issue.

I see the design goal is 110kg, but is that realistic with a 107 hp motor and drive train (less than 254 lb for UL status gives a cushion of only 12 lbs)? Looking at the spec of an air cooled 4 cyl boxer, my guess is a rotax 912s would be used, and that thing weighs in at about 140 lbs (64 kg) with filter boxes, exhaust etc, and no drivetrain.

Also the projected forward speed is 150 mph, which would make it ineligible for ultralight status (limit 55 knots to be classed as ultralight) despite the weight and what they say in the FAQ. I suspect the stall speed requirement would present an issue as well, as I am sure it's power off aerodynamic stall speed is somewhat more than 24 knots (although I have no Idea if that applies to rotor craft...the FAA resources I found seems not to make that distinction). The fuel limit for an UL is 5 US gallons, and they are specing 30L (about 8 gallons). BTW according to the spec 5 US gal would get you about 37 min. of flight time.

So IF they can keep the weight to the projected 242 lbs, that is only thing of the 4 requirements it would meet to qualify as an ultralight.

My bet is due to the mechanical complexity and performance, they will have difficulty classing it as an ultralight.
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Plus it's got a BMW engine! What could go wrong!
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What's the point?

Not much of a limb to go out on to predict 1) poorer acceleration, 2) poorer cornering performance, and 3) MUCH poorer braking when compared to a conventional motorcycle.

Looks like someone is busy building something that has little to no practical value. If you want a hovercraft, you can get one - they've been around since the 1950's.

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What's the point?

Not much of a limb to go out on to predict 1) poorer acceleration, 2) poorer cornering performance, and 3) MUCH poorer braking when compared to a conventional motorcycle.

Looks like someone is busy building something that has little to no practical value. If you want a hovercraft, you can get one - they've been around since the 1950's.

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ummm you can FLY this thing, not just hover it. You don't need to worry about braking in the same way an aircraft in flight doesn't need to worry about braking. As speced it had a ceiling of over 10'000 feet ASL.
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Hover (out of ground effect) - >10,000ft (estimated)
Yeah, good luck with that.

If you want to fly, get an airplane. And Paul Moller's been working on his aircar, skycar, or whatever, now for what? 40 years?

As I said, little to no practical value.

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Yeah, good luck with that.

If you want to fly, get an airplane. And Paul Moller's been working on his aircar, skycar, or whatever, now for what? 40 years?

As I said, little to no practical value.

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I can see doubt around the technical merits I have misgivings too, but you're (the guy with dozens of posts in the cool watch thread) gonna pick to argue practical merits on a motorcycle forum

I will agree it has no practice value as a commuter.

It's a toy, just like half of the stuff here in Shiny. It sure as hell looks like fun assuming it works as projected.
. Think about the places you could go with it, that you weren't able to with a bike, or quad, or fix wing, or even a helo. Swampy ground, no problem, scree slope rocks...easy. Fording a dangerous river, avalanche country, all very easy. It would be amazing for SAR work.

Aside from the technical merits, the thing that is going to hinder this more than any other is not about people wanting it, or even the cost to buy one, it's going to be the navigating the red tape and regulations to be able to play with it.
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ummm you can FLY this thing, not just hover it. You don't need to worry about braking in the same way an aircraft in flight doesn't need to worry about braking. As speced it had a ceiling of over 10'000 feet ASL.

OGE Hover merely means it has enough power to hover at 10,000' MSL. You'd be stupid to fly it much more than ten feet about the ground.

Now, put a parachute or a collapsible wing on it and I'd do it
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