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Old 07-12-2012, 06:52 AM   #226
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If they've figured out the heat issue, I'd buy a new Triumph Sprint GT without question if anything ever happens to my Aprilia.
Hey Stu and 625, Here's another Futura owner chiming-in about how porky ST bikes have become. Anything over 600 lbs is a touring bike to me, not a ST.

Anyway, since my Futura is showing her age (and cranky Italian electrics), I'd love to hear from a Triumph GT owner. That bike is at the top of my list along with the Ninja 1000 (though not really a ST bike until it sports factory panniers).

I sure do wish more manufacturers would seriously look at making ST bikes again instead of adventure tourers...but I guess money talks, and the money is in ADV bikes. Too bad for us!
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:38 AM   #227
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Hey Stu and 625, Here's another Futura owner chiming-in about how porky ST bikes have become. Anything over 600 lbs is a touring bike to me, not a ST.

Anyway, since my Futura is showing her age (and cranky Italian electrics), I'd love to hear from a Triumph GT owner. That bike is at the top of my list along with the Ninja 1000 (though not really a ST bike until it sports factory panniers).

I sure do wish more manufacturers would seriously look at making ST bikes again instead of adventure tourers...but I guess money talks, and the money is in ADV bikes. Too bad for us!

I haven't ridden a Sprint GT, But I'm certain that would be my #1 choice as a replacement if my Futura met an untimely death.

And another determining factor on if it's a ST bike or not.... It has to be able to throttle wheelie in 1st or 2nd gear without poppin' the clutch...
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:57 AM   #228
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Got one too, farkeled a bit different but sure it counts!
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:18 AM   #229
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Sprint GT

I just took delivery of a new 2011. I only have about 500 miles over the weekend so far; my initial thoughts:

Riding position is not too bad - I'm used to riding an 1150GS, so it's an adjustment. If I remain cognizant of using my core, my wrists were fine. Legs folded up a bit (5'10, 30" inseam), but not unbearable. No problem with seat height to the ground. For me, clean air behind the stock screen, and I didn't feel like I was in a "bubble", like when riding an RT. So far, no butt-burn from the seat. There are bar-risers and peg-lowering kits available, but I'm going to ride her a lot more before going that way.

A bit of engine heat on my left leg, but when moving at speed no problem (I was in 100+ temperatures). A little warm in stop-and-go, but what isn't?

The engine is fantastic - lots of torque and very smooth, linear power - fast! In 6th gear, she clips along easily at 85-90 at about 4500 rpm (10,000 red-line). I like the "burbling" from the triple as she slows down. No issues with the transmission, and the brakes (ABS standard) are very good. I got about 46 mpg over the weekend - I babied her a bit for the first 300 miles, but opened up a bit after. I was able to throw her around a bit on some mountain twisties, and liked the way she handled.

The panniers are roomy, and it has two under-seat helmet locks. My wife joined me as pillion for a few hours, and was comfortable. It has grab-rails for the pillion, but my wife would like a back-rest.

I would like an on-board thermometer, as well as a gear indicator (I'm not that sharp to always remember what gear I'm in!).

So far, a winner for me.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:26 PM   #230
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I just took delivery of a new 2011. .... So far, a winner for me.
Congrats. What color did you get?

I'm looking forward to this weekend, I'm taking my Futura down to New Orleans and back for the running of the bulls. I got a new Escort 9500ix, so we'll see how well it works keeping a candy-apple red bike ticketless.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:00 PM   #231
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Just my 2 cents here, but I have trouble calling 600+ lb., 1200+ cc bikes "sport" tourers. My old Concours may have stretched the boundary; anything bigger & weightier leaves the "sport" half of the equation in negative territory, no matter how many H.P. gets added. Everyone's definition of the term seems to fall on a separate point on that continuum between "sport" & "tour". For me, I think it's easier & cheaper to start from the "sport" side of the curve & add bits & bobs to accomplish the "tour" rather than the other way about.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:35 PM   #232
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Congrats. What color did you get?
Thanks, I got the blue...no photos as of yet...
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:43 PM   #233
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I sold an FJR last year, and honestly, I haven't missed it.

I bought it to tour on, and it does that VERY well, but as a day to day bike it's just too big. I also had a wr250r and I preferred riding that on short rides,
Each to his own but I am 5'7", 165lbs and I LOVE the FJR for just putting around town, and for touring. I run without the bags for general day riding, toss the bags on for long-distance. Sure it could use a few less pounds but it is by far the best, all-around, pure street bike I have ever ridden (from Aprille Mille's to Harley's).
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:26 PM   #234
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The rest were old beat standards, dirt bikes, Gold Wings and, of course, Harleys.
Thousands and thousands and thousands of Harleys.

What's your theory as to why sport tourers don't sell very well?
the argument can and should be made that the most successful selling sport tourer of all time is Harley.
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:31 PM   #235
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I guess I consider the RT a sport tourer because it has removable hard bags, isn't as large as the LT or a Wing and handles very well with a decent motor.
if you put the RT in the group based on that you have to include the GS.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:12 PM   #236
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the argument can and should be made that the most successful selling sport tourer of all time is Harley.
I can't think of a single Harley that fits the sport tourer definition...
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:55 PM   #237
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I can't think of a single Harley that fits the sport tourer definition...
you need to think outside the box. harley put every other brand, category, group, etc. etc. etc on the map just by doing what they've been doing for a very very long time.

before everyone else "did it"- harley already did it.

you can define "it" anyway you want but when you see 1000's of Harleys out on the roads and hardly any of the "other" bikes, do the math.

"sport tourers" are just rehashed concepts that finally found a name tag.

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Old 07-13-2012, 09:52 AM   #238
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you can define "it" anyway you want but when you see 1000's of Harleys out on the roads and hardly any of the "other" bikes, do the math.
I have.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:02 AM   #239
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It's no wonder nobody sees "sport-tourers" on the road when it seems that to most people the definition covers their bike of choice and just about nothing else.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:46 AM   #240
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It's no wonder nobody sees "sport-tourers" on the road when it seems that to most people the definition covers their bike of choice and just about nothing else.

Actually you are looking at it wrong.... There are TONS of ST bikes out there and we just didn't know it. Anything from a Tomos Moped with a basket on the front to a Boss Hoss 502 Big Block Chevy motorcycle with a 6 pack cooler bungie strapped to the rear fender apparently falls into the category of SPORT TOURING BIKE
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